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I'll happily pay for the flight...

*Picks up phone - I'll book it for you starlet, will you make her sandwiches for the journey or shall I?

Note the Tories on the forum are set against immigration. Can I suggest we swap ayslum seekers for our own undesirables, the resident bigots in this forum.

'Soft touch'? 'Over-crowded'?

I take it you are referring to the 'detention centres' in both cases.

Britain isn't the safe haven portrayed in the reactionary propaganda. We aren't even the number one destination in Europe, let alone the world for people escaping persecution or looking to earn a living.

Ask yourself why people are desperate to leave their own countries and families and come to this racist nation. And ask our western governments why they have been destroying the same foreign economies these people come from and manipulating world markets and public perception to earn more profits for their puppet masters.

Don't give in to hate. Don't give in to fear. There's enough food, there's enough space, there's enough money to go around. For everyone. But alas not enough understanding and compassion for fellow members of our race.

This would be a good idea, we have many people in this country that are too keen to commit crimes, lets keep and take in the immigrants who are prepared to do good for the country.

Just one more thing, totally agree AP.

WELL SAID!!!!

and lets not forget who 'created' the (genuine) asylum seekers in the first place! 'Oh go on! rise up against the government! We'll back you up!' Then when they did rise up against the governent (and Madd-ass Hussain) - where was the protection and the support they had been promised? That is why the majority of genuine asylum seekers have my sympathys. My ex wasn't an aylum seeker btw tho but another friend is a genuine asylum seeker (the horrors that he's seen make him burst into tears at any time of the day) and he has been made to 'jump through hoops' and spat on in the street and no - he's never claimed a benefit either. He seems to think that only British people should morally do that.

Here

Sorry to go off topic - my last post re this on this thread I promise -


We resent the scroungers, beggars and crooks who are prepared to cross every country in Europe to reach our generous benefits system.” These words, printed in The Sun on March 17th, 2001, sum up British prejudice towards asylum seekers.

Home Office figures present a different picture. Economically speaking, the figures show that asylum seekers put ten percent more into the economy than they take out, contributing an estimated 2.5 billion net fiscal contribution in 1999-2001. A single asylum seeker does not receive mainstream benefits, and receives just £37.37 a week, which is thirty percent below the poverty line.

There will always be people that abuse the system, but not all of them are asylum seekers and it is important to stress that these are a minority. There is no common agreement on asylum throughout the EU, but new legisilation, and Blair’s agreement to ‘get tough’ on asylum seekers is set to further increase the problems they face at present. Integration, not segregation is the only way to improve relationships in the community, and help refugees build a life for themselves and their families.

so there!

Excellent post Molly.

thank you Jim My friend (I'll call him Faisal) broke down again at work today. He's desperate to return to his own country, he can't adjust to Western culture (drinking, smoking, sex-before-marriage) so he's got no chance to find a girlfriend and he misses his family like crazy. Faisal's gran died on Tuesday and he can't go to the funeral or be there for his mum. I'm trying to tell him that she was 91 and had been in bed for 7 years and it was a release but he just feels guilty that he hasn't seen her for 2 years and now he can't see her again or support his mum. Anybody that critisises these 'scroungers' (he's never ever been paid a penny in benefits - he came to this country with his own money and got a job straight away) should remember that there are human stories behind these sensationalist headlines.

Jim? always knew he was a big pussy cat

and I didnt mean to be dismissive about your post while I jumped on your error


*crawls back in hole*

get out of that hole and explain yourself missis! Which error? I didn't notice you jumping on anyones post either! Don't make me get the tickling stick out again! I know you'd prefer the lovely Mr. Lapins tickling stick to mine anyway! Btw, sorry I know I said I wouldn't post again on that topic but I couldn't help myself... I'm so so so worried about my friend but I feel like I have no power to help him other than to listen and spend time with him as a friend when I get the chance. The only things in life that give him pleasure are:

watching the Simpsons
sleeping (I am ok when I sleep it is when I wake up that the pain returns)
spending time with my 7-week old neice and toddler nephews
what to have for dinner
feeding the ducks and geese and swans with me in our local park

He has no friends (other than me) bcz he is scared that if people know he's an asylum seeker they will hate him. He's very paranoid but if I had suffered even half of the trauma he has suffered and witnessed then I would be paranoid too. The only reason he has confided in me is that knows my ex boyfriend was also an Algerian asylum seeker (genuine) so it was a wierd co-incidence that we ended up working together and that I overheard him on his phone and recognised the language that he was speaking and asked him about it. I know he wasn't doing it for attention bcz he had no clue that I understood what he was saying on the phone. Who would know that a British woman would understand an Arabic language? He had no way of knowing.

Oh just send her back and have don with it.

She is in the country illegally - some MP wanting to make a name for themselves is bound to force the issue

She should be treated fairly - if she's here and broken the terms of her visa (IF...) then she should be dealt with accordingly.

Again, IF that's the case, how different would this year's programme have been without her...

I know the 'what ifs' are pointless, and there will be as many who say it would have been worse as those who think it would have been better, and we can never know what type of person would have been in in her place, but it's something some of us might mull over if ever there's a night we can't sleep...