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PostPosted: 26 Aug 05, 13:03 
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:oops: certainly not, I am a tory and have voted such all my life, but would have to refain from voting .


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I would if he wasnt a tory.

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pikeylass wrote:
Must admit I don't understand hunting or the mentality of people who do it.Foxes are a pain to farmers yes...but I'd rather see them shot than tortured.


Yes, i agree. How anyone can't give a s**t about a pregnant fox being chased to their death by hounds is unbeleivable. But as you have said here, why not find a way just to kill them instantly, instead of just letting the hounds have their fun with them. Or, instead of the huntsmen and huntswomen satisfying their bloodlust, absolutely pathetic :roll:

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Totally agree and not only that but animals who are weakened bcz they are still weaning the cubs are more likely to be killed also and to leave a litter of frightened little cubs to starve to death all alone so that Derek and his buddies can have their 'fun'... :evil:


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In one word NO the guy is a prat and a Tory and a black one at that, every 16 centrury slave must be rolling in there graves, at that turn coat. Meaning the word Tory, foxhunting thug, no better than a hoody chav, is being of more than an insult than the word prat :-?


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Not a chance. Our constituency is Tory (sadly), and is represented by the vile Sir Patrick Cormack, but I would rather see him beat Derek any day of the week, and that says something.


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these days you don't have to be wealthy or white or pretentious to have a 'posh' English accent - look at our lovely Trevor McDonald for example! We've had immigrants to the UK (including my parents) for enough generations that you don't have to have purely English ancestry to be a 'posh Brit' but I think Derek is trying to emphasise how 'English and posh' he is and it comes accross to me as false and defensive. My boss is a black man who is very posh and speaks like Derek but in his case it's just natural and he doesn't feel the need to hound fluffy animals to death or put others down to emphasise his 'financial superiority'.


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In one word NO the guy is a prat and a Tory and a black one at that, every 16 centrury slave must be rolling in there graves, at that turn coat. Meaning the word Tory, foxhunting thug, no better than a hoody chav, is being of more than an insult than the word prat :-?


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agreed!


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these days you don't have to be wealthy or white or pretentious to have a 'posh' English accent - look at our lovely Trevor McDonald for example! We've had immigrants to the UK (including my parents) for enough generations that you don't have to have purely English ancestry to be a 'posh Brit' but I think Derek is trying to emphasise how 'English and posh' he is and it comes accross to me as false and defensive. My boss is a black man who is very posh and speaks like Derek but in his case it's just natural and he doesn't feel the need to hound fluffy animals to death or put others down to emphasise his 'financial superiority'.


Soz...but am just laughing at the notion my (immigrant rents) would want to be considered 'posh'.Accepted would have been nice.On their honeymoon they got greeted with the no blacks/Irish signs :-?


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There is no way I'd vote for that man. He's typical of all that is worst in politicians.

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pikeylass wrote:
Molly wrote:
these days you don't have to be wealthy or white or pretentious to have a 'posh' English accent - look at our lovely Trevor McDonald for example! We've had immigrants to the UK (including my parents) for enough generations that you don't have to have purely English ancestry to be a 'posh Brit' but I think Derek is trying to emphasise how 'English and posh' he is and it comes accross to me as false and defensive. My boss is a black man who is very posh and speaks like Derek but in his case it's just natural and he doesn't feel the need to hound fluffy animals to death or put others down to emphasise his 'financial superiority'.


Soz...but am just laughing at the notion my (immigrant rents) would want to be considered 'posh'.Accepted would have been nice.On their honeymoon they got greeted with the no blacks/Irish signs :-?

Well my parents got the 'No Irish' stuff when we came here even tho my dad was in the British Army but i don't quite understand Pikey?


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No is a similar irony,Molly :D


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.On their honeymoon they got greeted with the no blacks/Irish signs ------------------ well that shocks and disgusts me I don't think it's legal to put up such racist signs! My parents did get the 'no Irish' signs but that was 30 years ago and I don't think it's legal to do that now. I'm sorry to seem stupid Pikey but I still don't get it :-(


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After getting an example of what most tories are like from the pompous git in the BB6 house, why would any right thinking person vote for him or his party :-?


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