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newzimbabwe.com
By Mduduzi Mathuthu
Last updated: 09/28/2005 23:26:46

PHILLIP Chiyangwa last night blasted Big Brother loser Makosi Musambasi as a "very sad liar" who would do anything for fame.

Chiyangwa -- who dated Makosi for two years -- has previously defended the former cardiac nurse when she was criticised for having unprotected sex and engaging in lesbian kissing orgies on British television.

The flashy businessman said he was hurt by "a stream of lies" by the Big Brother contestant after she claimed he had flown to London and was stalking her.

The Home Office will make a decision on Makosi's deportation appeal on October 20, after immigration authorities said she had breached her visa by going on the show and quitting her nursing job.

An irate Chiyangwa told New Zimbabwe.com: "That girl phoned me and I thought I could pull her leg by telling her I was in London. She believed, and it appears she thought she could pull another stunt by hooking up with the paparazzi to pitch up and photograph us together.

"She phoned me, sent text messages and even went to the extent of calling my daughter who is in there in England trying to fix an appointment.

"Of course I was never in London. She is just a sad liar."

Makosi told the London Evening Standard that Chiyangwa had flown to London and wanted them to get back together. She claimed she had snubbed him.

"He is over here at the moment, and he keeps texting and stalking me," Makosi, 25 this week, told the Evening Standard.

Chiyangwa said it was impossible for him to be in London because of travel restrictions on current and former Zimbabwe government officials. Although he has been removed from the European Union travel sanctions list, Britain has been known to block entry to President Robert Mugabe's supporters as happened to former Bulawayo mayor Joshua Malinga. Chiyangwa is Mugabe's cousin.

"She can see her star is on the wane and now she wants to drag me into her business and turn me into some pawn in order to excite the British tabloids. She has turned me into an object of abuse, and I really don't think its fair," Chiyangwa said.

Makosi has declined an interview with New Zimbabwe.com.

She told the Evening Standard that she was now dating a premiership footballer based somewhere in Birmingham, although the footballer has declined to be seen in public with her until after her 25th birthday this week. British newspapers and internet chatrooms say it could be a ploy to beat deportation from Britain.

"He saw me on TV and asked the production company to give him my mobile number," Makosi said of the footballer. "He is English and a premiership football player. He fancies me so much. He really doesn't want me to go. He says he'll appear in public with me after my birthday when I turn 25."

Makosi says if she is deported from Britain she fears physical attacks on Zimbabwe's streets. She also claimed her retired policeman father and desktop publisher mother have received threats from furious Zimbabweans angered by her odd antics in Big Brother.

"When I was on TV, I thought I would be okay, I can wear a big hat and a wig and sunglasses and no-one would recognise me. When I finally go home to see my family, now I seriously think I might be stoned for what I did.

"I went to an all girls mission school where 50 of us had to sleep in one giant dorm. We had to go to church every morning at 5.30am, bathed in cold water in a bucket and we were not allowed any contact with the boys. In Zimbabwe, women are supposed to be virgins when they get married. But men can have as many wives as they want. My grandfather had 15. I don't want that but I was naughty, I used to sneak off to meet boys and when I got caught I was expelled. Even today my dad doesn't know I kiss.

"At home, everyone makes decisions for you. I needed to get out. I couldn't wait to live by myself and wear the shortest skirt.

"I have a physical side to me, and there is a soul. My soul is what has a relationshinship with God. Adam and Eve were naked at creation. Why should boobs on TV mean anything sexual? Why should my boobs on television mean anything sexual?"

Gah. I dont like this at all. I know shes not well recieved generally, but I need to say this. It's blatantly obvious that the Zimbabwean press are having a field day with this. She might not be going about things the right way, and getting ones baps out when under threat of expulsion is a dubious way to make your case for staying, but I can't help being worried for her safety if she does get extradited and I certainly wont be comfortable about the fact that all she did was go in the big brother house and play the game being the reason that she gets expelled and put in a potentially very dangerous situation.

Things are not pretty in Zimbabwe. Thats an undeniable fact. Please lets not fill this thread with crowing about her potential expulsion, because you really dont know what you are sending her back to, and lets get some perspective here, shes done little that Jordan or Jodie Marsh or anyone who wants to get famous for famous sake hasnt done or considered doing. She went in the house, I guess with enough self belief to think that she had what it takes to make a career in the british media.

She was presented with many opportunities to play the game and make her mark by the BB production team and she did that with vigour. Neither she or the production team recognised the problems with her visa, or if they did, didnt believe it would be a real problem so ignored the chance it might be. Ok, her behaviour since has been a bit haphazard, to say the least, but I suppose if you really are at risk of being thrown out of somewhere you used to view as your home, then you make the most of the opportunities while you have them, because shes going to need as much cash as she can to make any form of life for herself.

Her only real crime appears to have been breaching the terms of her visa, the rest is common or garden ex-housemate conduct with a bit more of an extreme edge. If she hadnt come from a different country and this hadnt been made into an issue, people would probably still not like her, but they wouldnt be holding her up as a sacrificial media lamb.

The end.

True, it is a crime and should be dealt with properly.

I think they might. It has happened to British housemates in the past.

That is a really good post Minx, I spend quite a bit of time reading the news from Zim and as you say, things are NOT good over there.

Im not denying that it shouldnt be dealt with appropriately, I just was saying that I think that the fact that this is so media led should be taken into account when deciding the best way to deal with things. I'm not in the habit of taking pleasure of throwing someone to the lions, when the bears can take care of them better. She didnt murder anyone, she just broke her visa terms, albeit very publically.

Exactly - I do agree with you Mrs M and don't mind what the outcome is, as long as it's done properly. It shouldn't be made an example of just because she's widely known/disliked/liked, it should just be done fairly and squarely.

surly the woman was intelligent enough to know the consequences of her actions, personally i think she is either so desperate to stay here where she will be able to live comfortably, or she needs a shrink .

I did say at the time when Makosi was much loved & the favourite? that she was a boring gobshite & it's no surprise that Makosi has been grovelling to AIDS charities working in southern africa, apologising for her words & actions, in The Evening Standard.
And poor Adrian & Bunny thought she was deliightful.

well said public image, by day two it was clear she was a compulsive liar and full of s..t and have been saying so since and quite often shot down in flames for it however i really do think she is a sandwich short of a picnic and should be treated as such in a psychiatric ward.

How many of you would have cut off your arms to be in her place though?

Let me make it clear, I was no Makosi fan during the show, but theres so much hatred for her now that it appals me.

From the absolute outset of the show, she was in a different position to the other housemates because she walked into the 13th housemate role which forced her into the position of being a liar. She had to convince the other housemates to dislike her enough to get the most nominations to save her own neck in the very first week. Whatever her game plan had been going into the house, this altered it straight away.

She wasn't an illegal immigrant BEFORE she went into the house, she only became one once she was a housemate because she had broached the terms of her visa by not being employed and still residing in this country (I think thats the technicalities of it, I'm no lawyer and its not really been gone into in that much depth).

Again, let me reiterate, this is not a defence of her as a person, but of her human rights as a human being.

If you want to buy into the media and the performance in the house, which is what I believe it was, a performance, and mix all that in with the increasing media and public anger about illegal immigration then thats fine, but its not that clear cut. The only association that should be drawn between her participation in the series and her broach of the visa law is that by taking part in the series, she broke the law.

She comes from a country where hideous human rights atrocities are being carried out on a daily basis. She is being scapegoated in their media for behaving in a manner that the british public would barely have blinked at had she been english. If that is not taken into account when the decisions are being made about her future, then we are as much criminals as the Zimbabwean government, because we are effectively condemning her to a quite potentially dangerous fate.

There is very little perspective being put into this situation because the media is fuelling it all. This isnt a game show any more, its a real life real risk situation, and people need to realise that instead of simply adding fuel to the fire.

You might just be right with this, although an English person would have attracted a fair amount of criticism too, had they acted in a similar manner. They wouldn't have faced the potential threat of being deported, or whatever the proper term is, that's all.

I guess if you behave a certain way, you can expect a certain amount of criticism. I'm really not trying to defend her, I am as tired of seeing her norks in the paper as the next person.

I just worry for her. She came here, saw the sort of culture that is evolving in the UK, particularly around the whole BB phenomenon (which rightly or wrongly, has sparked a wealth of aspirational people into putting their foot on the media ladder via a very public means, but appears to pay dividends if you play the game right) and got involved with that. It will end up biting her on the backside in far bigger ways than we could possibly imagine or would wish on her.

We really shouldnt be deporting ANYONE back to Zimbabwe at the moment. It's just not safe, and if anything has been proven by the Zimbabwe media, its that she's very unpopular there, and would most likely NOT be safe were she to return.

The thing that puzzles me, really, is the fact that she never seemed to be particularly stupid, and not realising that this would affect your status seems to be a particularly stupid oversight, both on her part, and on the part of the people who chose her to go into the house. It doesn't make sense that it would have not occured to anyone to check before allowing her to take part.

It's a nasty little mess alright, and the sooner its sorted the better, because I have run out of sentences now, but I hope that if she IS deported, it's to a place where she will be safe.

It seems a strange oversight right enough - the year we were in it we had to submit police forms and all sorts of stuff. On the face of it it may appear to be an oversight; the cynical may view it as an extraordinarily handy publicity vehicle for the production company.

Meh, I did ponder that one for a while, but as I couldnt come up with anything conclusive I went for the benefit of the doubt. Because if you start down that train of thought, then you start to ponder how much engineering of situations in the house there was in order to make sure Makosi was constantly at the forefront of the attention. And that's just paranoia creeping in and stabbing all my pixies, and I dont want that.

I agree - paranoia and engineering are two things that are better left to the side when it comes to discussing Big Brother.

Food for thought all the same, let's not gorge ourselves though!