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I didn't think tonight's episode was perticulally well edited. A lot of great stuff was left out from last night, like the discussion where Mika talked about his kids and Kathy made a total fool of herself. I'm sorry people didn't get to see those sides of the both of them, they would have changed some oppinions.

Yeah, I would have loved to see that!

HMs have had lazy evening yesterday and a day as well! Wish they'd have more action tonight!

And hello guys out there - Tiina loves ironing!

This is getting worse - I mean talking behind someones back. I think that BB should react for that, because chatting about Antti S is going to have an influence of next nominations. BB should show their chat-moments on screen to Antti S. I hate that kind of behaviour in every single human being. This is really bad clique. They don't want to see any positive features about Antti S. They didn't even realise last night that Tiina has with her a fantasy book, which is 'Narnia' and she was reading it to the other HMs in the evening before they went to bed. Antti S has been reading the LOTR, another fantasy book, the whole two weeks they've been in a House. I guess that reading that book intensively makes Antti S a little bit quiet as well.

And I think that Iina should keep her sharp mouth shut about her opinions over other HMs. She's manipulating others with them!

Good news for viewers outside of Finland. Someone has started uploading the programs to the newsgroup alt.binaries.tv.big-brother
So far today we have day2 (launch day , What was day 1 ?) through day 5 and still coming.
Very interesting first program showing how the show and the house was put together.
I've got a lot of catching up but at this rate it won't take long. Shame I haven't got a clue what is being said but there again it's never stop me in the past.

Body language, larry

Oh come on Mari, people talk about other people all the time! It's been obvious for a while that Antti S. will be nominated and propably evicted next, so no harm done there. He's brought it on himself, Iina has nothing to do with it. They're not talking about nominations, so Big Brother propably can't do anything about it. We all talk about each other and it's one of key things of BB to see what people are talking about about each other. It's the name of the game to see who clicks and who doesn't, who will fit in and who won't.

The housemates have nominated for the second time. During next week the public will decide if it's Antti S. or Perttu that has to leave the house next sunday. Perttu was quite upset and said he would leave anyway even if he didn't get most of the votes, he said he knew he'd have to undergo the public vote for as long as he was in the house.

I personally have no doubt in my mind it will be Antti that will get the majority of the votes. The excitement now is to see if Perttu will stay in or walk.

Perttu won't walk.. he's just a little bit down right now. A Normal reaction.

On a tangent...Could one of you give us a summary in Finnish and English???I'd love to learn the lingo

I don't think he'll walk eather, Jaake. He took the second nominations quite hard. I understand because he just can't have a clue why people keep nominating him since it's more a chemistry issue.

Here's something for pikey and others interested in the finnish language:


> Ulkona terassilla Perttu kertasi tilannetta Mikan kanssa.

Outside on the terrace Perttu was going over the situation with Mika.

> - Harmittaa itseä, kun ei tiedä, mitä tekee väärin, Perttu kertoi tunnelmistaan.

- It bums me out not to know what I'm doing wrong, Perttu opened up about his feelings

> Hetken päästä myös kuumuutta manaillut Antti S. saapui paikalle.

In a moment's time Antti S. came out complaining that it was hot.

> - Perttu on paha vastustaja, koska se on niin hyvä jätkä, Antti S. kommentoi kilpailukumppaniaan. - Se on niin hauska ja se tekee paljon.

- Perttu is a tough opponent, since he's such a great guy, Antti S. commented on his competition. - He's so funny and does a lot.

> Kolmen miehen juttutuokion aikana Antti S. myös osoitti pelisilmää tunnistamalla sen piirteen itsestään, joka sai muut äänestämään häntä:

- Mä lauon mielipiteeni niin suoraan, niin mutkattomasti. Ehkä se tulee vähän käskevästikin. Se olen minä, en mä rupea sitä peittelemään.

During the chat of the three guys Antti S. showed he had an eye for the game acknowledging the feature in himself that made the others nominate him:

- I say what I think so straigh, no beating around the bushes. Maybe it sounds like I'm telling. That's me, I'm not going to hide that.

> - Mun täytyy sanoa tämä, Mika tarttui Antti S:n tarjoamaan tilaisuuteen. - Kun sä sanot mielipiteesi, kuinka sä sen asian esität, ratkaisee. Ihmiset eivät reagoi positiivisesti siihen, että sä sanot asiasta kärkkäästi. Jos sä olet oikeassa, se on oikeastaan vielä pahempi.

I have to say this, Mika grabbed the opportunity Antti S. gave him. - When you give your oppinion, the way you deliver it, counts. People don't react positively to it when you say it so eagerly. If you're right, it's actually even worse.

> Antti S. nyökytteli ja ymmärsi, mitä Mika ajoi takaa.

Antti S. nodded and understood what Mika was trying to say.

> Kun henkilökohtaiset fiilikset oli saatu käsiteltyä, Perttu alkoi ruotia kilpailijoiden ryhmädynamiikkaa. Mies kertoi tunnistaneensa joukosta kuuden hengen ydinporukan, joka pitäisi luultavasti yhtä mahdollisimman pitkään. Antti S. nyökytteli ja sanoi tietävänsä, mistä puhuttiin.

When personal feelings had been dealt with, Perttu started to analyze the groupdynamics of the contestants. He said he'd noticed there was a tight click of six people amongst them, that would propably stick together as long as possible. Antti S. nodded and said he knew what he was talking about.

> Keskustelun päätteeksi putoajaehdokkaat kuittasivat tilanteen huumorilla.

- Me ollaan talon paskimmat jätkät, Antti S. nauroi paiskatessaan kättä Pertun kanssa.

At the end of the discussion the two nominated for the public vote settled the situation with humour.

- We're the two shittiest guys in the house, Antti S. laughed and high fived with Perttu.

> Kilpailijoilla on vielä viikko aikaa puida tilannetta ennen kuin toisen katsojaäänestyksen tulos selviää.

The contestants have a week to figure out the situation before the result of the second public vote will be revealed.

> Lähteekö Big Brother -talosta ensi viikon sunnuntaina Antti S. vai Perttu? Sinä päätät.

Which one will leave the Big Brother -house next sunday, Antti S. or Perttu? You decide.

TG Mika got the guts to say the subject straight to Antti S!

Thanks larry for the information - I think that you'd enjoy watching this and like Liisi wrote you - it's the body language and mimics and tone of voice that matters if you don't understand the language.

Nice to see you back, Jaake!

Have you noticed that this title has become the most popular thread on 'Big Brother World Wide' at the moment on BBFans?

This time the nominations were much easier to make to HMs, and those two who got themselves nominated (Antti S and Perttu) got the news like a man - 'This is game'!

I guess that Antti S is one to leave the House next, Perttu stays because he's more entertaining at the moment. And I'd like to see does this nomination knowledge change their behaviour until it's the day to leave the House for one of them. And I wonder does Iina (that I liked in a first week) find another HM to tease behind his or her back now, because Antti S has been already nominated. Maybe it's Perttu, but who would it be next week?

I think it was great that Perttu the show-man said straight to the other HMs that 'you have been nominated me this time as well, again', I loved to see the reaction of other HMs at the moment he said it. He also said that he will consider should he stay or should he walk out voluntarely if he will be nominated again in third nominations. That was straight and serious talk from him. And after that gossiping behind backs started to continue. Tough game has begun! That moment was a flash of sense from Perttu - who I have thought to be simple-minded.

I have to say I really don't think Iina is teasing anyone. She just doesn't like the way Antti has been behaving and it's hard for her so she needs to talk about it with a friend. She's really struggling to keep a straight face in front of him, so she wouldn't snap. She does have a tendency to create tight little groups of people she likes around her, but that's hardly a crime or even ethically wrong. Some people need to talk about stuff that's bothering them to get it out of their system and in the BB -house the most important thing is their groupdynamics. What else are they to talk about other then things from their pasts (oh and sex of course)? The weather?

Teasing starts with silent body language when you have decided that you don't want to like certain person if that person reacts like Antti S has done (to retreat himself from others company). Don't you know other things to talk about ? And I think it's etchically wrong to create little groups of people she likes around her and leave others outside. But that's the problem usually with people that are working in a profession that needs independancy. I couldn't think that she'd suit to any work where you'd have to work as a team (Iina has been playing football in the past, but I'd like to hear from her past team-members that what kind of team player she has been back then). But BB isn't game for team-working, it's a game that were someone stays longer than others and who's the favourite of an audience. But it won't last long hopefully that other HMs realise what kind of person they are dealing with Iina. Mika has realised it already, he voted Iina in the nominations.