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PostPosted: 12 Feb 06, 1:21 
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MoD to probe Iraq 'abuse' video


The Ministry of Defence said it was investigating the allegations
Pictures from a video allegedly showing British soldiers brutally beating a group of Iraqi teenagers have been published by the News of the World.

The newspaper says the incident took place two years ago in southern Iraq. An unidentified cameraman is heard laughing and urging his colleagues on.

The Ministry of Defence said it was aware of the allegations and the Royal Military Police were investigating.

The footage allegedly shows soldiers dragging youths and kicking them.

Alleged abuse

The newspaper described the footage as a "secret home video" apparently filmed for fun by a corporal.

It allegedly shows a disturbance in the street outside what the paper calls is a military compound.

Soldiers are shown chasing youths involved in the disturbance, dragging four of them into the compound and beating them on various parts of the body and kicking them, one in the genitals.

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The paper claims that it has established that the soldiers involved were British, but would not disclose which unit or regiment were allegedly involved.

It said it has made exhaustive checks to establish the video's authenticity.

It obtained the footage from a whistleblower, who they declined to identify.

The Ministry of Defence said it took any allegations of abuse very seriously.

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MoD investigates 'abuse' tape



Eight British soldiers have been accused of beating a defenceless group of Iraqi teenagers senseless.

An amateur video which appears to show troops abusing helpless Iraqi civilians is the centre of an urgent investigation by military police.

Details of the film, in which a group of young people are seen to be attacked by soldiers, appear in The News of the World.


The newspaper says the scenes were filmed by a corporal who can be heard encouraging his colleagues in a running commentary.

A Ministry of Defence spokesperson said they took such allegations "extremely seriously" and a probe had been launched.

She said: "We are aware of these very serious allegations and can confirm they are now the subject of an urgent Royal Military Police investigation.

"We condemn all acts of abuse and brutality and always treat any allegations of wrongdoing extremely seriously.

"Over 80,000 servicemen and women have served in Iraq since military operations began.

"Only a tiny minority are alleged to have been involved in incidents of deliberate abuse." Ch4


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Exposed.. squad of British soldiers beat teenage Iraqis and shame their country
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 Post subject: Few troops involved in Iraqi abuse
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BAGHDAD, Iraq - New abuse allegations involve only a small number of Britain's troops in Iraq, a British military spokesman said Sunday, expressing hope the claims will not affect relations between coalition soldiers and Iraqis.

The British military police probe launched an investigation Saturday after the tabloid News of the World newspaper claimed to have received video footage allegedly showing British troops using their fists and batons to beat a group of young Iraqis in 2004.

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Iraq Video: Arrest Made



A man has been arrested in connection with video footage of British troops allegedly abusing Iraqi civilians.

The Ministry of Defence has confirmed the Royal Military Police made the arrest but would not say whether the man was a serving soldier.

Prime Minister Tony Blair has promised an investigation into the shocking video, which caused outrage after it was broadcast around the world.

Arab satellite television stations, including al Jazeera and al Arabiya, are replaying the footage alongside images from the Abu Ghraib prisoner abuse scandal involving American soldiers.

The images, released by the News of the World, show troops in Basra kicking, punching and striking young people with batons.

Basra City Council chief Mohammed al-Abadi said local leaders wanted quick action and assurances that Iraqis would not be "humiliated further".

"We condemn and denounce this criminal and brutal act. Iraqis don't deserve such treatment," he said.

Akil al Bahadily, an official from the Basra office of radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al Sadr, said: "This is good proof of the violations of human rights being committed by British troops in Basra."

All political parties were united in their condemnation of the alleged footage.

A MoD spokesman said the Royal Military Police was planning to interview witnesses and speak to any alleged victims before drawing up a report for the Army Prosecution Authority.

The soldiers are shown apparently dragging four youths into an army compound after Iraqi youths threw stones at soldiers.

The cameraman is heard laughing and saying: "Oh yes! Oh Yes! You're gonna get it. Yes, naughty little boys. Die. Ha Ha."

The News of the World said the tape, shot in 2004, was shown at the troops' home base in Europe before being handed over by a whistleblower.

Major Peter Cripps, an Army spokesman in Basra said there had not yet been any recriminations on the streets of the southern Iraqi city, where most of Britain's 8,000-plus troops are based.
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Exposed.. squad of British soldiers beat teenage Iraqis and shame their country
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If you ask me its ***** like the NOTW and other money grabbing journo`s paying for their beers and luxurys with the blood of our troops who will now no doubt be blown up that sicken me. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:


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Who would have thunk it?
Soldiers and violent behaviour ? lol.
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It remains a societal irony that we recruit social retards for the armed forces...train them to be as efficient killers...and then are surprise when we see them beating the hell out of a few civilians.

Weird species...humans of the early 21'st century.

Calrissian: Has never bought a copy of the 'News of the World'.


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Yeah agreed Carlrissian, with the added send them to war then don't pick up the pieces when some of them have breakdowns on their return.

Gulf war syndrome...not us guv! :evil:


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Soldier arrested over video of British troops beating Iraqi teenagers

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Oh dear me... we westerners are going out of our way to destroy ourselves. The yanks have done it this time. Some tape of ritual torture carried out by US army way back a few years ago and for which the people that did where caught and punished for it have now been released and aired across the Arabic networks as new.

I’m beginning to wonder if we aren’t running some incentive scheme for suicide bombers and terrorist
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New Abu Ghraib images broadcast



An Australian TV channel has broadcast previously unpublished images showing apparent US abuse of prisoners in Iraq's Abu Ghraib jail in 2003.

The images on SBS TV are thought to be from the same source as those that caused an outcry around the world and led to several US troops being jailed.

The new images show "homicide, torture and sexual humiliation", SBS said.

The US has said the images could only "incite unnecessary violence" and endanger US military personnel.

The broadcast of the images comes at a time of increased tension between Muslim nations and the West over cartoons satirising the Prophet Muhammad.

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One of the videos broadcast on the SBS programme Dateline on Wednesday appears to show prisoners being forced to ********** for the camera.




Other video footage appears to show a prisoner hitting his head against a wall.

The channel said he was a mentally disturbed patient who became a plaything of guards who practised ways of restraining him.

Some photos are said to show corpses. There are also images of prisoners with body and head wounds.

Some of the pictures have now been re-broadcast on US networks and on Arab satellite channels al-Arabiya and al-Jazeera.

SBS journalist Olivia Rousset told the BBC one of them showed a senior Iraqi officer being treated for a throat wound received after he resisted being transferred within the camp.

Some of the new photos showed soldiers who have already been convicted for their part in the abuse, including Lynndie England and Charles Graner, the man prosecutors said was the ringleader in the scandal.

A number are versions of the photographs that caused outrage when they were initially leaked in April 2004, including the prisoner wearing a hood and hooked to wires.

SBS also said it had received reports that some prisoners were killed when US soldiers ran out of rubber bullets during a prison riot and started using live rounds instead.

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US defence department spokesman Bryan Whitman said the images "could only further inflame and possibly incite unnecessary violence in the world".

He said: "[The images] would endanger our military men and women."




Analysts say the reaction in the Muslim world may depend on how widely the images are shown. In Iraq, the emergence of the images come amid tension caused by the release of a video appearing to show UK troops beating Iraqi civilians.

The BBC's Jon Brain in Baghdad says al-Arabiya is broadcasting half a dozen of the new Abu Ghraib images, though it has refrained from showing the most shocking.

The images are part of a group of more than 100 photographs and four videos taken at Abu Ghraib and later handed to the US army's Criminal Investigations Division.

In September a New York judge ruled in favour of a request from the American Civil Liberties Union for the pictures to be released.

The judge rejected the government's arguments that publication could fuel anti-US feelings. The Dateline programme says the government is appealing against the decision.

US state department legal adviser John Bellinger said the images showed "conduct that is absolutely disgusting".

But he said the government had opposed publication as it felt the images were "an invasion of the detainees themselves... and would simply fan the flames around the world".

US President George W Bush has said the Abu Ghraib abuse was a "disgrace".

Nine junior soldiers have been convicted - some are serving jail sentences. All senior US commanders were cleared except the commander in charge of Abu Ghraib at the time, Janis Karpinski, who was reduced in rank from general to colonel. BBC


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right rant time

I'm not usually anti-Murdoch press. Most anti Sun / NOTW stuff is usually snobbery from the chattering classes who like to pour over the Guardian to make themselves out as being intellectual, but the NOTW has been way out of order on this.

For a start, there is a war taking place. Wars are by their nature not good. Things happen which wouldn not happen in ordinary life and its very easy to sit behind a coffee table or keyboard and start criticising "our boys" ( (c) The Sun) whilst they are out there.

What they did was wrong, but lets not blow things out of proporting. If the NOTW were after owt but publicity, they'd have had a quiet word with the MOD and said "look deal with this or we publish". They've just inflamed an already volatile situation.

The ironic thing is that every opinion column there has ever been in the papers has suggested that what our young thugs need is a clip round the ear from the local bobby. There was nothing more than that in this footage. Doesn't excuse or justify it, but let's not pretend this was anything remotely close to what the yanks have been caught doing.

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