ellie wrote:
Oh yuck, all this talk of placenta. I took no interest in it at all with any of the kids and am happy to admit I didn't see any of them (the placentas that is, not the kids)

Liisi wrote:
As for the "victims of religion", I agree with you GG. I have faith in many things, most of all I believe in humanity and the good that lies in everyone of us. Any religion that starts giving specific instructions like "give birth in silence and don't talk to the baby for a week, oh, and please make a huge donation to the church" is bogus imo. Faith is something that lies inside oneself, it doesn't take a huge sum of money to believe in something. Money can't buy redemption, forgiveness and love. In another hand, everyone may live their lives as they wish as long as they don't hurt others, and if beeing a scientologist or what ever makes a person happy and content, by all means, go for it. I can imagine there are crazier things in life.
I’ve been thinking about this ‘victims of religion’ comment that I made…hoping I didn’t offend anyone. The following few lines, spoken by Jamie Haith last Sunday, maybe explain what I was attempting to ‘get at’.
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He didn’t do religion very well.
The stuff he said made no sense in religious terms
There were clear religious guidelines and rules, about what was holy and what was not, and Jesus pretty much trashed the whole thing.
He brought wholeness.
He brought equality.
He brought the priest, the prostitute, the leper, all to the same level.
Now is that what you think of, when you think of church?
Wouldn’t you love it if that’s what the church was famous for?
How many people have I met that say this?: ‘It’s nice for you, but I’m not very religious. I’m not good at keeping the religious rules’
‘Good,’ I say, ‘because neither was Jesus’, and that’s half the point.
http://www.htb.org.uk/site_assets/sound ... 230406.mp3
After all that, isn't nice to know Katie was well cared for?
