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Author:  cheekiechickie [ 25 Jul 05, 17:37 ]
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zx50 wrote:
ADRIAN_L wrote:
it's not a shoot to kill policy- it's a shoot to protect policy.

If the bloke hadn't of been breaking the law, he wouldn't have got shot.
He was an illegal...shouldn't have been here.


What would your post have said, if this had been an english man who had been shot??


It's sad whoever and whenever ANYONE is killed..including the bombers themselves imo. It's a difficult situation with a lot of innocent people involved.
Author:  zx50 [ 25 Jul 05, 17:42 ]
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I'm not really saying that the police should be like machines, like get everything right all of the time. Maybe the fella who did shoot him was devastated when he found out the truth, who knows.
Author:  ADRIAN_L [ 26 Jul 05, 8:59 ]
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zx50 wrote:
What would your post have said, if this had been an english man who had been shot??


It's highly unlikely that an Englishman would have been shot - He'd have had no reason to flee from the Police. :-?

He wouldn't have run away from armed Police, he wouldn't have jumped ticket barriers at tube stations. :roll:

The harsh, blunt reality is..if our Government had been doing it's job properly, this illegal immigrant , would be alive and well in his own country, and not lying on a mortuary slab, in ours. :-?
Author:  DXY [ 26 Jul 05, 16:39 ]
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He's legal apparently ;)

I just don't think a man should be shot 8 times and have his brains splattered all over a train carriage....

If a British man had suffered the same fate in Rio de Janeiro,I can't help thinking they'd be more of a fuss in this country...

Another thing,if they thought he was a suicide bomber why let him board a bus!!?!?!? :angel:

Living like this,it seems to me the terrorists are already claiming a piece of our sanity....
Author:  tastyfish [ 28 Jul 05, 23:05 ]
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It turns out his Visa had run out so technically he had no right to be in this country. but that's not the point. we live in a fair society that's supposed to be based on a sense of justice, you could call it our weakness. We don't have the death penalty for convicted murderers, but if you look a bit dodgy and act a bit strange on the underground you can be killed for it. This isn't Iraq ffs. You can't go around killing suspects because you THINK they may have explosives. You have to be 100% sure - and the police weren't. He had his reasons for running off - he honestly believed it was because he was an illegal immigrant and he probably didn't think they were armed - round where I am it's very unusual to have armed police.

Death from terrorism is a probability whoever you are and wherever you are. 3200 people died in road accidents last year. That's almost a hundred London bombings. If they all happened on the same day driving would now be banned.
Author:  pikeylass [ 28 Jul 05, 23:37 ]
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With respect,t,and am prolly one of the most bleeding heart liberals there are...but.....A potential incident of national security will bring on a mind set of fear and paranoia...and besides..we've never had to deal with suicide bombers before.The cop had to weigh up his options in a split second....could he be shooting an innocent man or might 47 people die as the result of whats in his backpack??
I am so very sorry for every one caught up in this....sometimes we need to make decisions that could never have a right outcome :-?
That cop needs to live with what he did.Am greatful I am not him
Author:  tastyfish [ 29 Jul 05, 12:26 ]
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Yes, true, it was a split-second decision taking into account a number of factors. Mistakes do happen and unfortunately one happened then and an innocent person was killed.

I have to say I am quite impressed with the way the police have investigated the whole terrorism incident. But I think in the wider context it's time we pulled out of Iraq and let them murder each other in their own country. We're only getting involved because of the oil. Otherwise we'd have sent troops into Zimbabwe, Myanmar, North Korea... Shouldn't we concentrate resources on finding and developing alternative fuels and curb our reliance on oil?
Author:  Molly [ 01 Aug 05, 21:22 ]
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I pity the man who shot him. I know someone who used to be an illegal immigrant and the paranoia is out of this world! Even walking past a policeman used to make him break out into a cold-sweat. I'm not surprised the man ran. I pity the people who have the responsibility to decide whether to shoot or not. This is just terrible. I just feel so sad for him and his family. :-(
Author:  zx50 [ 02 Aug 05, 15:22 ]
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The thing the average man or woman doesn't realise, is that most of these illegal immigrants are probably running from fear (their own country). But some of the people in this country don't realise that, they just don't want them here. It really gets to me when i hear people on tv just simply saying they don't want them in our country, and yet if they were in trouble, they would be the first ones to ask for help.
Author:  tastyfish [ 02 Aug 05, 23:25 ]
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oh yes, and it wasn't that long ago that Brits were quite happy to be illegal immigrants, raping, pillaging and taking over land and generally making a nuisance of themselves, in many countries around the world :-?
Author:  pikeylass [ 02 Aug 05, 23:57 ]
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And that many of the peoples of the countries they colonised were offered safe passage in return for 'a new life in the new world'..a world of opportunity,affluence,tolerance and all those other great British virtues :D
Author:  tastyfish [ 03 Aug 05, 0:37 ]
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yes, will agree with that - but my point was mainly against those who want all asylum-seekers and 'bloody foreigners' out. they have a tendency to forget some of the more shameful parts of their own country's recent history.
Author:  pikeylass [ 03 Aug 05, 0:38 ]
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Sorry,t..In a roundabout way I was agreeing with you
Author:  tastyfish [ 03 Aug 05, 0:39 ]
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although having spoken to a lot of family in India not many want to come to Britain - most want to go to the US, Australia, Canada or New Zealand.
Author:  tastyfish [ 03 Aug 05, 0:41 ]
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something to do with a better standard of cricket. yes, the US, i know :D
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