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You can get paid now to do your PGCE!!!

no ,.. instead I did business management on a day release where i worked from eight am till ten PM doing in one day what the dossing bums of students did in a week

the worst type of people i ever employed where ex students with degrees in rectal rutuals ora BA in acute stupidness, they cionsidered themselves above maning a call centre even if after 4 years of trying they had failed to get that ideal job of a hundred grand a year just for knowing the history of a toilet seat and its many deravations

Me too - £22 a fortnight if I remember correctly. Ahh those were the days. I would quite like the student life again, if not the studying. In fact, it's not unlike that at the moment.

It is pretty scary reading all of this. After we go back to school (a week tomorrow, can't wait ) we're going to be starting doing all the applying to university stuff. It feels incredibly grown up...

i did that last year Jezi too and only 2 weeks to go to find out if I have got in. Im trying to keep down the debt but I feel sorry for you because you will be lumbered in the first year of topup fees (I think)

Yeah, they said it was 2006 that they were introducing them wasn't it.

If it's a Scottish university that I go to (that's the plan) you don't pay fees during the time you're there but have to pay to graduate or something? To be honest I don't understand it in the slightest.

no neither do I, I think its 2006 because I remember I would just avoid it for one year

I had a conversation with young student last friday about the same subject, she was about 19 or 20 years old. (And it was discussed over the same subject also 15 years back, the facts how much it really costs if you take a student-loan and pay it back in a long period) If she wouldn't work at same time as she's studying she couldn't survive financially. She don't want to take a student-loan from bank and if she'd live only with her student grant she would have only 40 € per month to food and other stuff after she had paid her rent. (Well, her parents can help her if she'd tell it to them, but she's so stubborn that she won't easily ask help from them - that's the way we still educate our children over here ) And as she's a female, her future as an employee is unstable: she's young, she could have to work part-time and in intervals for along period and there's no chances to think about having a family (at her best fertile age) of her own financially and as an employee (employers don't want to have women at their fertile age or women with young children at work) after she's graduated. We don't have over here any scholarship system. And I know as well few Uni-students that haven't graduated yet at all, even that they are over their thirties some in their forties, because they have worked more and more at the same time when they've been studying and work has took them along or they have got married, had children and stayed at home and etc. But they are still able to finish their studies some day if they want to. But if someone starts his/hers studies these days, the law has been changed and a student can study her/his profession only for a predestinated period and if (s)he don't, (s)he's booted out from the Uni or other school that (s)he had been studying.

Being a student is fantastic fun, however. I attend a ridiculously overexpensive university ; this year I am paying over 3 thousand pounds for 10 months of rent for a single bedroom ; last year it was 2800 for the privelige to sleep in a living room.

Because of my degree and the amount of time I have to spend in the libraries I have no time for a job. I work two full time jobs over the summer; I very rarely drink, dont fork out on non-necessities like the internet, cd's, videos and books. And yet , because of the system I've seen myself with less than 7£ to last the week; on a good week its £15. I'm not complaining because I chose to come to uni - but the thought of the graduate endowment fee scares the living daylights out of me ; no fee = no graduation. It just seems silly that students are penalised for wanting to attend university, and I will be late 30's before my loan looks even halfway decent.

Hope its true about the scottish PGCE though.