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I always had a thing for coastguard style helicopters, they always so sleek uber-cool style. I want one !
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Hoping to see some footage from Mobile, which caught the 'nasty' side of Katrina.

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they dont have it yet ,,, we made have to wait till tuesday now


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blagman wrote:
they dont have it yet ,,, we made have to wait till tuesday now


:-( but I want it now !
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oh well, have seen some amazing footage this evening, none of which you'd see on UK TV. The Mobile bay area is indeed probably way way worse than New Orleans. An oil platform whacked into the bridge over there, and that pic is available on yahoo.com

*ps. the USA anti-smoking adverts are weird. I feel the strange inclination to buy all sorts of weird products having watched USA TV so much lately.

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I watched it from 5am this morning on a combination of CNN stuff which the BBC were playing and NBC on here.Was better than yesterday when I kept losing the link up.Had a dream I was in Baton Rouge...no wonder I coulndt go back to sleep!


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watching WKRG online again...

entire sections of Dalphin island have been 'removed'. Hundreds of homes have disapeared. Instead of a long island...its fragmented...and vast chunks just gone.

Also, a massive oil platform is now on the shore...and the pier...is now joined up to a new piece of land.

Shocking. hopefully, not too many people decided to stay in that area.

Calrissian: craving something sweet


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well, its Wednesday...now coming up to 48hrs since the storm.

The coverage online is still worth checking out, its utterly shocking.

Despite being one of the biggest news stories of all time.... no one in the UK is adequately covering it. New Orleans is filling up with water - permanently, as I type.

Far from getting better, its turning into a greek tragedy of epic proportions.

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Yes I was quite surprised that there waxsnt more coverage on the 24 hr channels.Obviously I can understand there only wanting to remain a limited number of newscrews if it was so dangerous when the storm struck but the storm was always only going to be the beginning of the flooding/sanitation/disease/destruction that would ensue once the surge tides had passed and collected water enters the area from higher ground.The area faces terrible times ahead :-?


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 Post subject: Katrina refugees for Texas, New Orleans in chaos
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Wednesday August 31, 06:22 PM

NEW ORLEANS (Reuters) - About 23,000 refugees stuck at the New Orleans Superdome arena after Hurricane Katrina flooded the city will be given shelter in Houston, Texas Gov. Rick Perry said on Wednesday, as looters and rising floodwaters sowed chaos in the devastated Louisiana city.
Perry told a news conference he would allow the refugees to shelter in the Houston Astrodome after neighboring Louisiana Advertisement

Gov. Kathleen Blanco asked for help.

He expected to see people arriving from New Orleans, about 350 miles (550 km) away, in the next 24 hours, aboard some 500 buses provided by federal emergency officials.

In New Orleans, engineers tried to plug a leaking levee that let lake water pour into the city two days after Katrina struck the U.S. Gulf Coast. People left stranded were running out of food and water and growing desperate as authorities tried to decide how to get them out.

"We've sent buses in. We will be either loading them by boat, helicopter, anything that is necessary," Blanco told ABC's "Good Morning America."

Katrina's death toll was more than 100 and expected to rise much higher.

The U.S. Energy Department said it would release oil from a strategic reserve to offset losses in the Gulf of Mexico, where the storm had shut down production. U.S. crude-oil prices eased below $70 per barrel on the news, but gasoline futures prices jumped by about 20 cents per gallon, to $2.67.

Katrina struck Louisiana with 140 mph (224 kph) winds, while slamming into the coasts of neighboring Mississippi, Alabama and western Florida.

A 30-foot (10-metre) storm surge in Mississippi wiped away 90 percent of the buildings along the coast at Biloxi and Gulfport.

At least 110 people died in Mississippi. "We're just estimating, but the number could go double or triple from what we're talking about now," a civil defence director told the Jackson, Mississippi, Clarion Ledger.

Biloxi, Mississippi, spokesman Vincent Creel earlier said the death toll would be "in the hundreds."

U.S. Sen. Mary Landrieu told reporters she had heard at least 50 to 100 people were dead in New Orleans.

A million people fled the New Orleans area before Katrina arrived. But former Mayor Sidney Barthelemy estimated 80,000 were trapped in the flooded city and urged U.S. President George W. Bush to send more troops.

"We have to send the army to stop this or we will lose New Orleans and we will lose 80,000 people," Barthelemy told CNN. "If we can spend the monies that we are spending to help the people in Iraq, then we can do the same thing for New Orleans."

The U.S. military was sending a hospital ship and two helicopter-carriers to assist two other Navy ships already conducting rescues in the area. Governors of the afflicted states mobilized 8,000 National Guard troops.

Amid the looting, gun-toting citizens took to the streets in some areas to try to restore order in New Orleans. Where it was still dry, some store owners sat in front of their businesses, guns in hand.

One had put up a sign reading: "You loot, I shoot."

Louisiana officials said 3,000 people had been rescued, but many more waited to be picked up in boats that cruised flooded streets or helicopters that buzzed overhead.

"I'm alive. I'm alive," shouted a joyous woman as she was ferried from a home nearly swallowed by the flood.

BODIES FLOATING

Rescue teams busy saving people left bodies floating in the high waters.

Looting erupted as people broke into stores to grab supplies, television sets, jewellery, clothes and computers.

"It's a lot of chaos right now," Louisiana state police Director H.L. Whitehorn said.

New Orleans at first appeared to have received a glancing blow from Katrina, but the raging waters of Lake Pontchartrain tore holes in the levees that protect the low-lying city, then slowly filled it up.

Mayor Ray Nagin said 80 percent of the city was submerged in water that was in places 20 feet (6 metres) deep.

Attempts failed on Tuesday to plug a 200-foot gap (60-metre-) in the levee system with 3,000-pound (1,360-kg) sandbags and concrete barriers, but officials said they would keep trying.

"The National Guard has been dropping sandbags into it, but it's like dropping it into a black hole," Blanco said.

The lake should return to normal levels within about 36 hours, and the water now flooding New Orleans would begin to drain, said U.S. Army Corps of Engineers senior project engineer Al Naomi.

CARJACKINGS

He said the historic French Quarter, the main draw for New Orleans' huge tourist industry, should escape with only minor flooding because it sits 5 feet (1.5 metres) above sea level.

But Nagin estimated it would be 12 to 16 weeks before residents could return. The floods knocked out electricity, contaminated the water supply and cut off most highway routes into New Orleans.

In hard-hit Jefferson Parish, parish president Aaron Broussard said, "Jefferson Parish as we knew it is gone forever."

Police said there were dozens of carjackings overnight, by desperate survivors trying to leave town or obtain supplies. Somebody fired at a rescue helicopter Tuesday night, forcing its crew to abandon efforts to evacuate patients from a hospital, a state official said.

Authorities were so intent on rescuing flood victims that at first they let the looting go unstopped, Nagin said.

But he told CNN the situation had escalated and authorities were "bringing it under control as we speak."

He said 3,500 National Guard troops were being sent to New Orleans. Louisiana state police were sending 40 troopers and two armored personnel carriers.

Authorities sought to cope with a growing number homeless evacuees. Conditions had deterirorated in the Superdome, which had no electricity and holes in the roof caused by the storm.

Katrina knocked out electricity to about 2.3 million customers, or nearly 5 million people, in four states, utility companies said. Restoring power could take weeks, they warned.

U.S. Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman said oil from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve could be provided to an unnamed oil refining company as early as Thursday.


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the best blog right now...

http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/

with a live cam' stream (although link might change)

mms://204.251.3.10:3349

*I like the guys attitude. He is in a skyscraper, plenty of food, water, a generator...and a gun with plenty of ammo. The looters better not enter his building, or there will be trouble :evil:

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 Post subject: Hurricane Katrina overwhelms weather Web sites
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Tue Aug 30, 2005 5:53 PM BST

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Several U.S. weather and news Web sites were deluged by heavy traffic as hordes of people went online seeking emergency information and news on Hurricane Katrina, which battered the U.S. Gulf Coast.

Weather.com was largely unavailable from 6 p.m. to 9:15 p.m. EDT on Sunday night (11 p.m. British time Sunday to 2:15 a.m. Monday), as the storm was approaching its Louisiana landfall, according to Keynote Systems Inc., which monitors Internet performance.

But a spokesman at Weather.com disputed that contention. He said availability was close to 100 percent, but the time needed to retrieve the site's entire home page spiked to as long as 9 seconds on Monday morning, during the height of the storm, as people came back to the office and started checking the news.

Keynote was not immediately available for comment.

Availability of the National Weather Service Web site http://www.nws.noaa.gov fell to 29 percent from 11:15 to 11:45 a.m. EDT Monday from its usual 94 percent to 98 percent, according to Keynote.

News sites CNN.com and USAToday.com showed some degradation of performance on Monday morning, with their home pages loading at 6 seconds and 10 seconds respectively for short periods of time, and availability of ABCNews.com went as low as 52 percent from 2 to 2:30 p.m EDT on Monday.

These sites usually load at 3 or 4 seconds, said Keynote. Keynote's Business 40 Index Internet Performance Index measures the average download time for the home pages of 40 important U.S.-based business Web Sites.


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*as expected, 'thousands' died due to Katrina.

I was noting to someone last night...

assume 50,000 homes totally destroyed...10% of people stayed...1 person a house...thats 5000 dead just to start with.

Then there is new orleans....another 1500+

10,000 dead would certainly not surprise me.
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Currently, its clear that New Orleans will be out of commision for 6 months...way into 2006. Just draining the city will take months,,, then the power, water, roads need to be fixed - more months.

There are MANY towns utterly destoyed east of New Orleans. As ever, just tune into one of the net streams - esp. WKRG for 24/7 coverage of this still developing story.

Calrissian: LOST


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Oh Jeez that's just awful! :-( My parents are fine btw, I called my brother and the weather is terrible and they can't leave the house but everyone was right - the hurricane is not destroying homes there thank God. I feel so guilty for being grateful but thank you all! you were right! It's nowhere near New Hampshire, New York or California (where my uncle, sister and aunt live and where my parents are visiting) ty


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It's shocking, I never thought so many people would have stayed behind. It could be true that this is Americas tsunami. To try and ride out a hurricane in a wooden house is mad, but sad if they've got know where else to go.


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steve_o wrote:
It's shocking, I never thought so many people would have stayed behind. It could be true that this is Americas tsunami. To try and ride out a hurricane in a wooden house is mad, but sad if they've got know where else to go.


I have ZERO sympathy for those - who were able to leave, but who decided to 'ride out the storm'. They are idiots, and many thousands have paid the price.

EVERYONE was effectively told that if you stayed, you'd probably die.
Indeed, it looks like the usual 10-15% of people decided to stay.

With each hour of footage I see, the final death total just looks to be even higher than the ones I foresaw.

Pres. Bush makes a statement at 10pm, will he say 'thousands'. Maybe, but even if he doesn't, he should at least state that New Orleans - and MANY other towns are places where no one can live for upwards of year or so.

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