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PostPosted: 31 Aug 05, 22:54 
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What is the official (or educated guess) death-toll? does anyone know? it surely isnt' really in the thousands is it? Please God I hope not

edit: just watching the news - that's awful! :-(


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The Official Line is that they are still looking for survivors and don't have time to count the dead ! :-?


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Well, early this morning, the official toll was around 80.
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As for 'survivors'. Yes, there are probably 25,000 people that need to be moved out of the area....for at least a year.

The whole area is 'out of bounds'. We're talking about 250,000 to 700,000 people who have NO home, no anything.

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I dont doubt the area may well never be inhabitable again.....at least not as we know it.Check out The national geographic(forgive my lack of inteligence hence...)...the eco system will undoubtedly have changed beyond all recognition as a result of this


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update...
Its now rumoured there are as many as 75,000-100,000 people YET to be rescued from houses in the New Orleans area.
It'll take weeks to clear them out...and they won't be returning until next summer at the earliest.
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Then there are the other towns....tens of thousands...all of whom need to relocate.

*Gasoline is being sold in Atlanta for $6.06 - rather than the recent $2.50-$3.00. People are starting to freak out and panic buy. By this weekend, things could spiral out of control.

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Oh I agree cal.....what gets me is this is the U S of A...

its almost being brushed under the carpet none the less...
.if things are So bad here....just how bad are they on a (almost) yearly basis in Bangladesh?

Its the most horrible catastrophe which is oddly understated imo


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Its the most horrible catastrophe which is oddly understated imo


It was strange how many in the media utterly failed to grasp the situation until this evening. The UK media have especially been poor at understanding the gravity of the situation.

This news story will spiral, if gasoline continues to run out..and be panic bought. The mood in the American web forums is very concerning. Many are seriously worried and stocking up.

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Well admit I was shocked... mean I could kinda understand the perverse (lack of) reporting from Baghdad.....man alive...what kind of freak was that??but....from USA.....wealthy....resourceful...whats going on??\are we trying to avert en even bigger catastrophe than we know about???(in western terms dosh)...maybe to play down the stockmarkets??

I get a lot of coverage tips from a cousin in Atlanta(who has an intranet cxn w metoerological and CDC) about how severe this can be(The CDC are recruiting actively staff worldiwde to help diagnose and treat waterborne illness) and my bro's in Arizona so they get to smirk knowingly(as they fry lol)..so I dont have active links on too much via http://www.Its so mch worse than the outside world comprehends tho


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update: Martial Law been declared in New Orleans

time to send in the army...and start shooting.
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no more rules....its a free for all now.
Get ready for some serious street to street battles between the US Army and the gangs with the AK-47's. Wonder if they'll be using air to ground rockets from the Black Hawks?

New Orleans is now a city at War

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 Post subject: Survivors evacuate New Orleans as looting rages
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Thu Sep 1, 2005 9:24 AM BST
By Jason Reed

NEW ORLEANS (Reuters) - Survivors were evacuating the shattered city of New Orleans on Thursday as authorities confronted growing lawlessness and desperation days after Hurricane Katrina blasted the U.S. Gulf Coast.

Mayor Ray Nagin declared a state of martial law in the city and ordered police to drop their search-and-rescue operations to concentrate on stopping widespread looting and violence.

"We will do what it takes to bring law and order to our area," Gov. Kathleen Blanco told reporters.

"I'm furious. It's intolerable," she said of the growing crime wave.

Gunshots repeatedly rang out and fires flared around the city as looters broke into stores, houses, hospitals and office buildings -- some in search of food, others looking for anything of value.

They broke windows, tore down security gates and knocked down doors, then hauled away what they could carry or cart.

As more National Guard and Army troops headed into the historic city to help with relief efforts, thousands of weary residents waited hours or waded through floodwaters to try to catch rides out of New Orleans, long known as one of the world's most famous tourist destinations.

A convoy of some 300 buses began shuttling more than 20,000 people holed up in miserable conditions in the Superdome football stadium to Houston's Astrodome 350 miles (560 km) away.

The refugees, desperate to escape, pushed and shoved to get on the buses. Tempers flared as they threatened National Guardsmen watching over the evacuation.

The first bus to turn up at the Houston stadium arrived unexpectedly early and authorities said later it had apparently been commandeered and driven to Houston with its load of passengers eager to escape a city lacking electricity and fast running short of food and water.

People on the bus, some of whom described harrowing conditions in the Superdome, were allowed into the Astrodome, which is installing thousands of cots where Houston's professional baseball and football teams once played.

Ray Nagin estimated it would be 12 to 16 weeks before residents could return. A million people fled the New Orleans area before Katrina arrived. But former Mayor Sidney Barthelemy estimated 80,000 had been trapped in the city.

Sen. Mary Landrieu of Louisiana said she had heard at least 50 to 100 people were dead in New Orleans.

In Mississippi, the death toll topped 200 and Gov. Haley Barbour described the scene in the state's coastal area as "just the greatest devastation I've ever seen."

Hundreds are believed dead in Louisiana and Mississippi after Katrina hit the Gulf Coast on Monday with 140-mph (225 kph) winds and a 30-foot (9-metre) storm surge that trapped many in their homes.

HISTORIC DISASTER

U.S. President George W. Bush flew over stricken areas on his return to Washington from his Texas vacation and said, "We are dealing with one of the worst natural disasters in our nation's history."

"This recovery will take a long time. This recovery will take years," Bush said.

His administration declared a public health emergency amid concern about outbreaks of disease and began working with Congress on emergency legislation to assist recovery efforts from the disaster that some officials said rivalled the September 11, 2001, attacks.

James Lee Witt, who ran the Federal Emergency Management Agency under President Bill Clinton and oversaw relief after more than 350 disasters, said spending on Katrina's recovery may exceed that of September 11 because the damage was spread out over such a large area.

"The cost is going to be astronomical," he said, adding that much of the aid will have to be focussed on helping people, rather than repairing infrastructure.

Floodwaters did finally stop rising in New Orleans, which is mostly below sea level and was inundated by water from Lake Pontchartrain after levees broke.

"It's not a significant decrease but it's not rising any more," said Al Naomi, a senior project manager with the Army Corps of Engineers. "It will still take a while to get the water out of the city.

Some low-income people left homeless in Mississippi and Louisiana expressed frustration with relief efforts.

"Many people didn't have the financial means to get out," said Alan LeBreton, 41, an apartment superintendent who lived on Biloxi, Mississippi's seaside road, now in ruins. "That's a crime and people are angry about it."

Some fleeing to Houston from the destruction in New Orleans expressed anger they could not join those from the Superdome scheduled to be temporarily housed in the Astrodome.

Houston Mayor Bill White said the Astrodome's capacity to provide decent living conditions was limited and that America's fourth most populous city was already providing shelter to numerous refugees in hotels and shelters.

"We're good neighbours here. We know this is a U.S. situation here and we're the closest major city so we have tens of thousands of people that will be here," White told CNN.

Texas Gov. Rick Perry opened the state's public schools to children of people displaced by Katrina. Thousands of people needing medical care New Orleans was no longer unable to provide were also being sent to Houston hospitals.

Despite the growing fear spawned by looting, a spokesman for Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco insisted: "Search and rescue remains the governor's top priority. The governor is worried about saving lives."

The spokesman, Bob Mann, said the state was also working to find places elsewhere for those being evacuated.

"We're not going to drive them and drop them to the side of the road," said Mann.

NATIONAL IMPACT

The storm was having a national impact as gasoline prices soared. The hurricane cut a swath through a region responsible for about a quarter of the nation's oil and gas output.

The administration said it would release oil from the nation's strategic reserves to offset losses in the Gulf of Mexico, where the storm had shut down production.

The U.S. Coast Guard said at least 20 oil rigs and platforms were missing in the Gulf, either sunk or adrift.

The U.S. Coast Guard reported at least 20 oil rigs or platforms missing in the Gulf of Mexico, while officials estimated 95 percent of regional oil and natural gas production and eight refineries along the coast remained shut down.

Several crude pipelines on the Gulf Coast remained out of service due to power outages, damage and flooding.


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Oh God! sh*t! sh*t! sh*t! sh*t! sh*t! sh*t! sh*t! sh*t! this is just terrible! Who is in fecking control!!! Who is responsible for sorting this out!!! this is the worst day since 9 /11 or Beslam or Tsunami day! I feel like :-( reading/knowing this! :evil: Bah! :-(


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'oh god' indeed.
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lets be clear, the police are stealing too. The pictures of one cop in particular (loading himself with dvds and software from Walmart) is now an infamous picture online.

I say, shoot EVERYONE of those stinking looters on sight. All of them. I'm hoping the army will go in there...guns blazing. Besides, they are gonna need them, since the criminal fraternity has cleaned out all the gun shops - totally ! Literally tens of thousands of rounds of ammo and every gun imaginable is now in the hands of lunatics.

Its time for the Marines to get out the MK-17s

Calrissian: hmm


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 Post subject: GRADE A' LIVE radio link
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this is amazing...

http://66.209.70.155:8008/hurricane

paste that into media player via 'open url'.

Its the live radio communications for the National Guard Scanner of what is going on in New Orleans.

You want it raw, and to hear whats REALLY going on? Then the above link will give you the truth on what is happening in this city at war.

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further...
the interdictor's blog is essential reading with updates 24/7
see...

http://www.livejournal.com/users/interdictor/

Calrissian: copy that.


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Fats Domino among Katrina missing

Fats Domino has rarely appeared in public in recent years
Blues musician Fats Domino is among those missing after Hurricane Katrina. His agent, Al Embry, said he had not been able to contact him since Sunday.

The 77-year-old had told Mr Embry he was staying at his home in a low-lying area of New Orleans, with his wife, Rosemary, and their daughter.

Hundreds or even thousands of people are feared to have drowned in the city, where the hurricane struck on Monday.

Information is hard to obtain as power cables and telephone networks are down.

Domino's niece, Checquoline Davis, reportedly posted a message on an online bulletin board on Thursday pleading for information.


We haven't got anybody that knows where he's at
Domino's agent, Al Embry

She reportedly wrote that Domino, his wife, their children and grandchildren "didn't get out" of the second floor of his house.

Mr Embry, who has worked with Domino for 28 years, said: "I hope somebody turns him up, but as of right now, we haven't got anybody that knows where he's at."

More than a million people were evacuated from New Orleans and the surrounding areas before the hurricane struck, but Mayor Ray Nagin has estimated that up to 100,000 people decided to stay in the city.

Hall Of Fame

The singer and pianist, whose real name is Antoine Domino, has sold more than 110 million records, including Blueberry Hill and Ain't that a shame.

He had nearly 20 US Top 20 singles between 1955 and 1960.

Among the last of them was Walking to New Orleans, a Bobby Charles composition that became a string-laden tribute to the city that inspired him.

In 1986 Domino was inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, and won Hall Of Fame and Lifetime Achievement awards at the 1987 Grammy's BBC


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Up to 6,000 people may have died...the people of the city have been ordered to leave.....and still the authorities have looting as a top priority??Desperate people trying to survive and hey,let's arrest them all...so..what they gonna do witth em all??Lock em up in the underground jail that's now flooded.
This is the worst tragedy to hit the country in modern history....a city has been destroyed and will never recover :-? Desperately sad people at their wits end.....
The scale of human misery is far greater than the looting of material goods that may well prove worthless in any case.


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