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| Author: | JimD [ 01 Sep 05, 11:25 ] |
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1 September 2005 Mirror By Tom Pettifor Daughter, 5, and son, 2, die with her in 100mph horror A MOTHER flung herself and her two children into the path of a 100mph train yesterday. Her 23-month-old son was in her arms and she was holding the hand of her five-year-old daughter. The mum, 27, and girl were killed instantly by the impact at Southall station, West London. Her son suffered multiple injuries and died in hospital. Up to a dozen bystanders saw the mother, who was Asian, standing on the platform with the two children. Seconds later they watched dumb-struck as she threw herself and the infants into the path of the oncoming Heathrow express. The driver braked, but only came to a halt a quarter of a mile down the track. The distraught railman told accident investigators: "I was approaching the station at 100mph when I saw these people on the platform. "I knew the person was going to jump and put on the brake, but I wasn't able to stop in time." The mother was believed to be from the Southall area, which is home to one of Britain's biggest Asian communities. Last night her distraught husband was being comforted by police. Eighty-five passengers were aboard the airport train, which takes 15 minutes from Paddington to Heathrow, west of the capital. Several needed treatment for shock and all were kept on the train for nearly three hours while the dreadful aftermath of the incident was dealt with. One traveller said: "We had just gone through Southall station when the brakes slammed on. There was thick smoke, which must have come from the brakes." The station was closed until 7.50pm while police carried out a forensic search. Body parts were strewn for a considerable distance. Train schedules were severely disrupted, with only half of trains out of Paddington leaving as planned. Four hours after the horror, police wheeled a yellow and blue buggy belonging to the family away from the scene. At about 6.10pm, two bodies were carried from the station on stretchers and placed in the back of a black estate car. The 23-month-old boy had died in Ealing Hospital, two hours after his mother's plunge, from "massive multiple injuries". Chief Insp Willie Baker, of the British Transport Police, said: "We are supporting the family with trained liaison officers. This is a very serious and very sad incident. "We have already put a dedicated team of detectives in to make sure we find out exactly what happened." Police were examining CCTV of the platform and film from cameras believed to have been fitted on the front of the train. Tapes from a newsagent's at the station were also checked. Last night Southall's close-knit community was in mourning. Javeed Singh, steward at a Sikh temple, said: "At times like this we all share in the pain. We don't know the victims personally but we have all prayed for them here. "Two young children and a young mother have died and that can't be right. "A father and husband has lost his loved ones and our thoughts are with him and his family. "I cannot imagine what must have driven the woman to do something like that." In September 1997, seven people were killed and 150 hurt when a Great Western express and a freight train collided at Southall station. |
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| Author: | zx50 [ 01 Sep 05, 11:37 ] |
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This might sound harsh, but why did she decide to take the kids with her?? I'm surprised the child old enough to hold her hand never put up a fight to stop herself/himself from being killed. When i was only about 5 year old, i would have known exactly what was going to happen if i had jumped infront of a speeding train. I might not have stood there and just told them straight that i wasn't going to, but i would have put up a fight and begged them not to make me do it, thus saving myself. |
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| Author: | Molly [ 01 Sep 05, 11:39 ] |
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I've only got so many tears I can cry y'know! today is more sh*te than I can say, so many bad things... anybody can be mentally ill and as such their behaviour is almost always excusable but any b*tch that takes the babies with her isn't human - I normally dont' use this word but I HATE her!!! 
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| Author: | Molly [ 01 Sep 05, 11:41 ] |
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I was in an almost identical situaton once ZX and it was only bcz I was old enough to plead with her (7) that she changed her mind. Different kids mature at different stages. It's fecking awful I know |
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| Author: | zx50 [ 01 Sep 05, 11:44 ] |
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I wonder if the father was hitting the mother, and this is maybe why she took the kids with her. She might have decided that the kids weren't going to go through what she went through, this is if she was being hit though. |
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| Author: | Molly [ 01 Sep 05, 11:52 ] |
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I think it's more likely that he was being unfaithful zx but we really shouldn't judge yet I guess. My dad never hit us but he hits my mum. she did the same thing once but at 7 I was old enough to protest hence I'm here today. Women totally internalise and turn it on the kids where as most (Western) men just fight and beat people! 
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| Author: | Calrissian [ 01 Sep 05, 13:31 ] |
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zx50 wrote: I wonder if the father was hitting the mother, and this is maybe why she took the kids with her. She might have decided that the kids weren't going to go through what she went through, this is if she was being hit though.
Absolutely my thinking too. I'd give you a probability of 97% that the husband/family involved is an abusive one. If thats not the case, then the woman is clearly plain old nuts. Cal: beep beep |
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| Author: | tastyfish [ 01 Sep 05, 14:59 ] |
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given the choice, I'd rather be hit by a partner than a train travelling at 100mph. Selfish act, taking the children with her, that is unforgivable - whatever she may have had to endure why drag her children into it? |
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| Author: | Mozza [ 01 Sep 05, 15:01 ] |
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Agreed TF. |
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| Author: | Calrissian [ 01 Sep 05, 15:08 ] |
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tastyfish wrote: given the choice, I'd rather be hit by a partner than a train travelling at 100mph. Selfish act, taking the children with her, that is unforgivable - whatever she may have had to endure why drag her children into it?
Reminds me of 'Keyser Soze' If you don't know who that is, then nevermind. --- Calrissian: if he goes down....so does everyone around him |
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| Author: | Molly [ 01 Sep 05, 18:58 ] |
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We all know who he is Cal. He killed his wife and kids bcz she was raped. Can't understand people who bought the dvd mind bcz it's a film you can only watch once I think. I pray to God that the five-year old didn't quite understand and that it was instant. That fear is fecking unreal. My mum tried to jump off a block of flats once and take me and my sister with her. It wasn't her fault, she was on tranquilisers and my dad is an alcoholic who hits her but it wasn't the best experience I've had... It's times like this you wish somebody had been nosy and asked questions before she got to that point. There is an unnaturally high suicide rate among Asian females, I don't know why but it's something that society must address |
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| Author: | gerbilgranny [ 01 Sep 05, 20:46 ] |
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Of course, by rational standards, taking the children with her is a 'selfish act'. But she wasn't rational, was she? I've heard of parents who've murdered their children to 'protect' them (without considering suicide themselves). That's not rational. Imagine having to go through life knowing you killed your child, and knowing that people consider you to be the scum of the earth, and believing that yourself? Some things are beyond understanding - it has happened to 'nice and respectable' mothers and fathers. Nobody wants to end up in that state. Nobody chooses it. |
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| Author: | BBoop [ 01 Sep 05, 23:28 ] |
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This is a truely terrible and tragic thing to happen. I agree with GG in that she clearly wasn't thinking in a normal state. Whatever drove her to suicide she obviously felt she couldn't leave her children behind. The thing about suicide is that is is SO terrible and it IS selfish to us as 'onlookers' but to the person its because they really can see NO other way out. Molly what happened to you was so terrible and I'm so sorry that you went through something like that. Huge hugs go out to you. Speaking as a mother I can honestly say that I couldn't kill myself but if I did I would want to take my children with me because I couldn't bear to leave them behind. I know you all now think that is terribly selfish but a mothers love is indescribable and makes you think differently 
Now you all think I'm weird
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| Author: | Molly [ 02 Sep 05, 1:13 ] |
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No way HC! you might be a bit wierd but so are the rest of us! We wouldn't be normal if we weren't a bit wierd. anybody totally normal is kind of wierd bcz it doesn't make sense to go through life unnaffected by our experiences, we all have quirks, being wierd is what makes us normal. For example I'm totally focussing on the fact that I think I spelt 'wierd' wrong.Or whether I should say 'spelt' or 'spelled'. And apparently 'a mothers love' aka 'a maternal instinct' is the strongest emotion known to us so with that much emotion where is logic? My mum wasn't perfect but she loved us and we knew that. We knew that if we just found the right words to get through to her she would be there. A mothers love prob gives u a different mindset but nature does that to us for a reason! to perpetuate the species I guess, I only have my cats and nephews to go on but my love for them is too strong to describe! Maybe you are 'wierd' HC but if so, do you care? I don't! 
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| Author: | Molly [ 02 Sep 05, 10:42 ] |
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All I can think of is how unfair this is. Did nobody notice this potential behaiour earlier? Didn't she have friends, family, workmates? My personal opinion is that it'd be better to be nosy and subsequently embarassed rather than let this have happened, ask questions, be too personal, be embarassed but don't give people the chance to do this.... |
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