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 Post subject: Bird flu
PostPosted: 08 Oct 05, 20:59 
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Bird flu strain reported in Turkey

Some 2,000 birds died overnight in Turkey of bird flu, CNN-Turk television reported.

The birds belonged to a turkey farmer in a village near Balikesir in western Turkey, and the announcement was made by a provincial deputy governor who said that the transportation of animals into and out of the village was now forbidden.

Officials from the Turkish Ministry of Health and the Ministry of Agriculture were sent to investigate.

There are several strains of bird flu but only a few are deadly. Experts are tracking the H5N1 strain, for fear it could mutate and spawn a human flu pandemic.

Bird flu globally so far has killed around 60 people, mostly poultry workers, and millions of birds.

United States officials have warned of a potentially catastrophic outbreak of avian flu, or bird flu, that they say health officials are not prepared to combat. breakingnews


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 Post subject: Romania reports new bird flu cases in Danube delta
PostPosted: 08 Oct 05, 22:14 
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Sat Oct 8, 2005 7:42 PM BST
By Radu Marinas

BUCHAREST (Reuters) - Romania reported new cases of avian flu in the Danube delta on the Black Sea on Saturday and began culling hundreds of birds to prevent the disease from spreading, authorities said.

Ion Agafitei, the chief veterinarian, told reporters three birds had tested positive for the virus in the village of Smardan after the first cases emerged in another village on Friday.

Further tests, including in Britain, were planned, to discover whether it was the H5N1 strain which has killed 65 people and millions of birds in Asia since 2003 and been found in Russia and Kazakhstan.

Experts fear H5N1 could mutate into a disease which spreads easily among humans, sparking a pandemic that could kill millions.

If the Romanian cases turn out to be H5N1, they would be the first sign the strain had spread to Europe.

"We have killed 220 (domestic) birds so far in Ceamurlia de Jos, where the first cases occurred," Agafitei said. "The process is ongoing and will continue."

Quarantines had been imposed on the two villages and five others where suspicious bird deaths had occurred in recent days and no livestock may be taken from the delta to market.

In Ceamurlia de Jos, a few km (miles) from the Black Sea, men with white masks were poisoning dozens of birds with carbon dioxide before burning them.

"Nobody dares to eat poultry here after what happened," Mihai Carciumaru, the mayor of the village, told Reuters.

"I attended a wedding today and I asked doctors to check whether the guests had poultry on their menu. But it's not the case, they've all decided to eat pork."

Television stations showed peasants from the village saying large numbers of poultry had died in recent days.

"Mysteriously my birds die one after another. I've lost 45 geese and authorities will kill the rest leaving me with nothing," an angry villager told private station Antena 3.

The H5N1 avian flu virus has been officially registered in six Russian regions in Siberia and the Urals, and has also been confirmed in Kazakhstan.

The Danube delta contains Europe's largest wetlands and is a major migratory area for wild birds coming from Russia, Scandinavia, Poland and Germany. The birds mainly move to warmer areas in North Africa including the Nile delta for winter.

Romanian authorities banned hunting across the delta which is home to 14,000 people and sent medical teams to test for possible human cases.

A senior Russian health official said on Friday the outbreak of avian flu in Russia was dying out but could make a comeback next spring.

Bulgaria, which is seen as a potential next destination for the bird flu outbreak, said it had not registered yet any cases. Veterinary officials said they would travel to the Danube river region to monitor the implementation of safety rules.

On Friday, U.S. President George W. Bush asked vaccine makers to do their utmost to boost flu vaccine production amid fears the country was unprepared to deal with a pandemic while officials from 80 countries and the United Nations wrapped up a meeting on ways to fight one.


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PostPosted: 09 Oct 05, 0:49 
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Is mother nature trying to tell us something, hurricanes, earth quakes, bird flu. If it starts spreading through humans, than she is telling us something, that's there's too many of us on this planet. :-?


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Dunno about too many but not showing any respect to the rest of the species and the planet in general. People say that we will destroy the planet but I think that's just human arrogance. We won't destroy the planet we'll just wipe it clean of organic life and it'll start again in another few million years.

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 Post subject: Initial bird flu virus tests prove negative
PostPosted: 09 Oct 05, 18:12 
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Telegraph for the FULL REPORT
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Fears that a deadly strain of bird flu had spread to Romania may be unfounded, the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) confirmed today.


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steve_o wrote:
Is mother nature trying to tell us something, hurricanes, earth quakes, bird flu. If it starts spreading through humans, than she is telling us something, that's there's too many of us on this planet. :-?


I'll dig up one of my regular sayings...

'go read a few history books'.

There is nothing unusual/rare happening lately.
Quakes, death, destruction, disease. Same old thing thats been happening for hundreds of thousands of years.

Next pandemic might kill 95% of the planets human population within a few weeks, then again...it'll more likely be just 1-3% - in which case its largely irrevelant and nothing to get to concerned about.

*sure, 1-50 million deaths due to a nasty version of influenza would be a bad day for humanity, but then...you got to look at the grander picture.

Calrissian: Hoping that his neighbours will be first in line to die of influenza 2005/6


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Calrissian wrote:
There is nothing unusual/rare happening lately.
Quakes, death, destruction, disease. Same old thing thats been happening for hundreds of thousands of years.


That's what my grandmother used to tell me and that what's happening has happened before - can't agree more, Calrissian.

But I think that those who can afford medicine, effective health care system and warning systems have better chances to survive. There are medication for bird flu and there are vaccinations for it as well. Unfortunately nobody seems to take care of poor or common people! :-(

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re: vacinations.
There is some data that suggest that the vacines are more life threatening that the disease itself.
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I sure as hell wouldn't be in the queue's for anything. Besides, those queue's will likely be filled with carriers of all manner of diseases. Just go hang out in any hospital, chances are you not good that you'll come out 'clean'.

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Calrissian wrote:
There is nothing unusual/rare happening lately.
Quakes, death, destruction, disease. Same old thing thats been happening for hundreds of thousands of years.

Next pandemic might kill 95% of the planets human population within a few weeks, then again...it'll more likely be just 1-3% - in which case its largely irrevelant and nothing to get to concerned about.

*sure, 1-50 million deaths due to a nasty version of influenza would be a bad day for humanity, but then...you got to look at the grander picture.

Calrissian: Hoping that his neighbours will be first in line to die of influenza 2005/6



totally agree cal

whats the big deal about a few thousand people snuffing it whens there's 8 billion of us on the planet

i could think of a few i'd like get wiped out too, and i'm sure they'd be quite happy if it was me that was the victim ::lol::

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*whip round time folks*How quickly can we get Hippo a one way ticket to Romania?? ;)


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Thats £50 from Blags so far... ;)


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i'm sure ther'll be a few more donations later :D

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Clarissian Wrote:

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'go read a few history books'.


"Jesus" how patronising, I know my history. Cholera and Plague were produced by too many people living together in Cities, amongst other things which, I'm not going to go into now. I'm not saying this flu will spread or even pass to humans, but I was just making an opinion. It pisses me off when people come on with smart arse comments like that. If you've got a point to make, make it, but don't slag my opinion off with comments like that ta very much. I'm not a child.


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steve_o wrote:
Clarissian Wrote:

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'go read a few history books'.


"Jesus" how patronising, I know my history. Cholera and Plague were produced by too many people living together in Cities, amongst other things which, I'm not going to go into now. I'm not saying this flu will spread or even pass to humans, but I was just making an opinion. It pisses me off when people come on with smart arse comments like that. If you've got a point to make, make it, but don't slag my opinion off with comments like that ta very much. I'm not a child.


Hmm.
There are two types of people.

Those who get very upset when told to 'refer to the past', and those who do reflect back and consider that things are not particularly bad.
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