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PostPosted: 18 Oct 05, 21:14 
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Only 600 hundred deaths in a couple of years, but if it gets into humans in a big way as predicted, it could take a lot more.

Im very worried.

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Only 600 hundred deaths in a couple of years, but if it gets into humans in a big way as predicted, it could take a lot more.

Im very worried.


600 people. utterly irrelevent.
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Drink - 50000 dead a year
Smoking - 125000 a year
: and thats just in the UK

The older I get the less I give a damn about such minor 'news scares'. The media are really lapping up the junk comments that the government are issuing now daily.

Until you see people from your street start dying in their beds, you have NOTHING to be worried about. Its just another one of those periodic health scares - same as BSE (remember how hundreds of thousands of us were touted as dying?).

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flu kills every year.... young and old....i think if it was so much off a risk then the goverment will act.. just hope it isnt as bad as they r making it sound... who know's :-?


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10, 000 people a year in the UK alone die from ordinary flu.

I'm with Calrissian on this one, if its going to happen it will, and most likely it wont, but worrying about it will change nothing.

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 Post subject: EU bans birds from markets in avian flu fight
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Thu Oct 20, 2005 10:11 PM BST
By Jeff Mason

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - The European Union on Thursday adopted fresh measures to fight bird flu, banning live birds from markets or exhibitions without permission and urging states to keep wild flocks away from poultry feed.

The European Commission said a committee of EU veterinary experts had agreed on the measures, including recommendations for protecting birds in zoos and the extension of a ban on imports of pet birds and feathers from many regions in Russia.

The ban will remain in place for six months, a Commission spokeswoman said.

The experts were discussing ways to keep the deadly H5N1 strain of bird flu, which re-emerged in South Korea in 2003 and has spread west as far as Romania and western Turkey, from sweeping across Europe.

It has killed 67 people and huge numbers of birds in Asia, but health experts' biggest fear is that the virus may mutate into a form that passes easily between humans, triggering a worldwide pandemic that could kill millions.

"The standing committee also agreed on an immediate, EU-wide ban on the collection of birds on markets, shows, exhibitions and cultural events unless specifically authorised by member state authorities ..." the Commission said in a statement.

It said member states could vaccinate zoo birds when appropriate. "All vaccinated birds must be identified and recorded, and trade in these birds will be prohibited except under specific authorisation," it said.

It has also restricted the use of certain decoy birds and said member states should "ensure that wild birds have no contact with feed and water destined for poultry." Wild birds migrating south for the winter carry the virus.

The experts supported a Commission decision to extend a ban on the import of pet birds and feathers from Siberia to cover the whole of Russia except for some regions like Kaliningrad and areas on the Finnish border.

This follows confirmation from Moscow on Wednesday of an outbreak of the H5N1 virus in the Tula region some 200 km (125 miles) south of the Russian capital.

The regions excluded from the ban include Kaliningrad, the Leningrad region and St Petersburg, Karelia and Murmansk.

"The geographical scope of that decision has been decided on the basis of a risk assessment which has been carried out by the Commission and the member states and which will be reviewed in light of the evolution of the situation in Russia," Commission spokeswoman Pia Ahrenkilde Hansen told a briefing.

Ahrenkilde Hansen also said a first test of a separate Greek sample had found no bird flu but further tests were needed.

"The preliminary test was carried out on that sample, which proved negative," she said. "Further tests are required, and the Commission has asked for further samples to be sent for testing."


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 Post subject: Infected poultry farms face a one-mile exclusion zone
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By Valerie Elliott, Countryside Editor

URGENT safety advice is to be issued to poultry farmers and their families who will be most at risk in the event of the deadly avian flu strain arriving in Britain.
The health of 50,000 poultry workers and their spouses and children will be a priority if infection is confirmed.

This decision has been made after the experience in South-East Asia where the 67 human deaths from the virus have been people living and working close to poultry.

These workers in Britain will be on the front line for the first anti-viral treatments and vaccines and will have to remain isolated on their farms.

All birds will be slaughtered at any infected farm and there will be a one-mile exclusion zone around the outbreak.

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oh well, looks as though the global poultry industry going to be decimated. Rather than my usual spicy chicken, I guess its back to the BSE infected Beef lol.
Or maybe i'll just stick to cereal - although Willy Wonka claims that is made from pencil sharpenings (he may be right on that).

Calrissian: too much chocolate...delusional


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 Post subject: Poultry to be registered in fight against bird flu
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Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:48 PM BST
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LONDON (Reuters) - The government plans to launch a national register of poultry businesses, and a farmers' spokesman said on Friday it would enable authorities to tackle any future outbreak of bird flu swiftly.

From next month, the Department of Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra) will start inviting new registrations from businesses raising chickens, ducks and other fowl.

A spokesman for the National Farmers' Union (NFU) said that if an outbreak occurred, the new register would enable authorities to quickly identify other poultry populations in the area, and take rapid action to contain the disease.

"A national register allows you to pinpoint where an outbreak happens and identify zones that might possibly be affected," Dale Atkinson told Reuters.

He said the national register would bring in smaller commercial poultry keepers, but it was not immediately clear if it would also encompass households that own fowl.

Currently, Defra, the NFU and individual poultry organisations, hold information separately, but no central register exists.

"Commercial poultry keepers will be asked to register their flocks as part of an initiative, backed by the industry, to step up surveillance of the avian influenza virus," a Defra statement said on Thursday.

Bird flu, which experts fear could mutate into a form that jumps easily from person to person and unleash a global pandemic, has killed more than 60 people in four Asian countries during this period.

All human deaths from avian flu have so far been in Asia but the H5N1 strain was detected this month in birds in Russia, Turkey and Romania. Further tests are being carried out in Europe on a bird from Greece.

The government, although there have been no recorded local cases of bird flu, has a detailed contingency plan in the event of an outbreak of bird flu. The new national register of poultry businesses will further reinforce protection.

"Combining all the information on one database containing the location and size of enterprises would be a major advantage to aid effective communication between keepers and help manage any outbreak," Defra said.

Defra has announced plans to publish this week a simple one-page guide on avian flu and how poultry keepers can reduce the risk of disease.

Margaret Beckett, Minister for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs, said Defra had worked closely with the poultry industry to prepare its contingency plans, which were tested in July.

"We believe we are prepared to deal with an outbreak," she said.

"The European directive on avian influenza will require us to introduce a poultry register by 2007, but we must move much faster than that," she added.

She said the new register could limit the spread of the disease in any future outbreak.

"It would allow us to know where poultry farms are and target effort and resources effectively," she said.

"Farmers hold the key to tackling any notifiable disease, and we will continue to work together with them to ensure any avian influenza outbreak is quickly contained and eradicated."

The national poultry industry has an annual turnover of 1,674 million pounds and is the second biggest poultry industry in Europe after France, producing almost 14 percent of Europe's poultry meat.


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 Post subject: UK Parrot tests positive for H5N1
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From: Agence France-Presse correspondents in London
October 22, 2005

THE British agriculture ministry has announced that a parrot which died in quarantine had tested positive for bird flu.

The bird had been imported from South America and arrived inthe UK in mid-September, according to wire reports.


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Parrot in the UK diagnosed with bird flu

"The confirmed case does not affect the UK's official disease free status because the disease has been identified in imported birds during quarantine" - Defra chief veterinary officer Debby Reynolds
Parrot in the UK diagnosed with bird flu
9.41PM, Fri Oct 21 2005

A parrot which died in quarantine in the UK has been diagnosed with avian flu, the Government has confirmed.

The H5 strain of the virus was isolated in a parrot imported from South America, which arrived in this country in mid-September, according to the Department for Environment Food and Rural Affairs.

It is the first case of avian flu so far in Britain.

The disease has already been found in Romania, Turkey and Greece after apparently being carried from Asia by wild birds.

Chief Veterinary Officer Debby Reynolds said: "The confirmed case does not affect the UK's official disease free status because the disease has been identified in imported birds during quarantine.

"We have had similar incidents in the past where disease has been discovered but successfully contained as a result of our quarantine arrangements."

The bird was part of a mixed consignment of 148 parrots and "soft bills".

They were being held with a consignment of birds from Taiwan.

The birds, which were being held in a biosecure quarantine unit, have all been humanely culled, Defra said.

The department stressed that it was "very difficult" for humans to contract avian influenza but all those who came in contact with the culled consignment have been given antiviral treatment. ITV


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Scary stuff .... lets hope this is an isolated case


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I thought it was only 61 deaths...Anyway

Why did I cross the road?To avoid the chicken...

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oh yes, we can expect lots of chicken/road jokes now...

how about...
why did the chicken cross the road...
to get the vaccination.
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The reason for the caution is that most ordinary flu's have evolved from bird illnesses, this one has not mutated yet and may not but it's mortality rate is 50% in the humans that have caught it.

The mortality rate in an ordinary flu is much much lower, the people who die from it generally are old or have illnesses which compromise the bodies ability to fight it.

The last pandemic in 1918 was similar and killed between 20 and 100 million worldwide, the exact figure is unknown.

The caution is welcome for me.


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Am I the only person on the planet not to get even remotley worried about this bird flu :-? I never get in a flap (haha) about these kind of imo hysteria things. I just can't bring myself to worry about it. * I seem to get in a tiswas about much more minor things however :oops: *


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