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It is truly awful and at 12 years old to be capable of such violence makes me wonder what she would be capable of in 10 years time. The girl she attacked will be scarred for life mentally if not physically and yet bcz of her age the attacker will not be punished for this behaviour. When I was at school bullying wasn't given the same attention that it gets today but there were always some (most) teachers that would take it seriously even before it was recognised as as serious as it's taken today.

Teachers are only human but that's a good thing imo bcz they react with caring and human emotions and dont' treat the children like 'numbers' or care about the 'red tape' more than the child.


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I'm sorry if I have hurt you with my comments that are based on facts in real life. I know that you are responsible ones and do care about these things! But discussing about subject in a critical way isn't for blaming anybody. We have same target - to stop bullying before it even starts - haven't we?

As far as you know through my posts you can see that I work with children every day as well and co-operating with teachers and other professionals is part of my daily work and voluntarely work as well. I am the one who's usually called there to help if somewhere is so called difficult children present - it has been like that from my early ages. But I work a lot with group-dynamics and children and adults knows that I have zero-tolerance about bullying and I work a lot through physical education. But this isn't about do I or don't I work with children or do you or don't you. I still stand behind my words, there's no need to edit my sentences. I'm not pointing school-world in UK, because I can tell you schoking news from everywhere, even from over here.

That research isn't rubbish. Material was filmed objectively in schools - on their yards, pathways etc. Even researcers themselves were schocked even about schools where everybody from the school-staff said that 'there's no such of thing that bullying in our school'. Usually bullying exist there where people the most deny its existence. I know from my own experience that there's less bullying if people are talking about it openly. I guess that Jezi's school is good example about that.

But still: adults blaming each other about what has gone wrong when this kind of things happens doesn't help the child, who needs help badly. We have other tools to solve these problems, other professionalists to co-operate with if parents don't co-operate. I wanted to know what do you do with attacker, what kind of system is waiting for her? Is going to childrens psychiatric unit to be searched mentally? Is she going to live in a family of fosterparents or approved school or something? Are there any support-functions to her family by social workers? I know that you care and support the victim, which is absolutely necessary. But the responsibility is not only on police-officers shoulders that what to do with attacker.

This is complicated matter and I can't write over here in another language everything that I want to say and explain my point of view shortly without being misunderstood. But all I know that I'm not alone with my opinions and I'm reading your posts with great interest! :wave:

p.s. I tried to post something over here yeasterday and this morning and that's why there's kind of a double post that wasn't shown to get through these sites :roll:

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Here's one example how a mother that I know solved her daughters bullying problem, when school didn't do anything. Her daughter was scared for her life even in her sparetime and refused to go alone anywhere outside of their home when another girl (same age as she 14 something) has started threathening her life after bullying her.

This small sized mother walked to a school, asked the principle to talk with this certain girl face to face in his office, because nothing has happened since they've told about the bullying to principle. The girl was called to principles office, mother said few straight things to her pretty calmly (principle and her daughter was present and girls parents weren't there because they weren't able to be there because of their problems) and finally she said simply - this stops right now. And it did stop right then. This girl stopped bullying other pupils as well from that day.

Simply isn't it? ;) All we need is an adult who takes these things seriously and takes a responsibility to say 'stop' to bullying and tells what are the consiquenses if it doesn't stop right now. Children can stop it immediately, for the rest of their lives, if one adult takes responsibility not to accept that kind of behaviour.

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 Post subject: BULLIES FACE CLAMPDOWN
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Sunday, 23rd Oct 2005
By Keith Gladdis

THE government has vowed to banish bullying from every school in Britain.

Education Secretary Ruth Kelly will announce a string of tough anti-bullying measures on Tuesday—marking a victory for our Helping Hand campaign.

She will pledge to put an end to the politically correct "no blame" culture in schools that has let hundreds of thugs escape punishment.

Every school will have to sign up to a nationally approved code of discipline with a clear set of penalties for bullies.

Headteachers will also be required to inform police of any incident involving violence.

And schools will be given the power to apply for court-imposed parenting orders to compel the mums and dads of bullies to attend parenting classes. Parents who refuse to co-operate with teachers will face £1,000 fines.

Full report NewsoftheWorld


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Thanks for that JimD!

(my example story above happened four years ago)

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The school bully is not a new invention, we had our share when I was at school and you just had to sort it yourself. I was a victim in my last year at school , a rich farmers son got his kicks by thumping the peasants who didn't dare complain because of his family.

He stopped when I had had enough and sorted him. He was not seen at school for the rest of the term :evil:


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::lol:: Well done JimD! :D

Sometimes the attack we see is that someone who has been bullied takes his or hers revenge to his or hers own hands. They burn down the school-houses, shots school-stuff and their bulliers and other pupils etc. Those news are horrible as well. :-?

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 Post subject: Girl charged over sharpener attack
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A 12-year-old girl has been charged in connection with an attack on a fellow pupil which left the victim needing multiple stitches to a facial wound.

The schoolgirl from Sheffield has been charged with wounding with intent to cause grievous bodily harm, South Yorkshire police have confirmed.

She has been granted bail and will appear before magistrates at Sheffield youth court on December 12th.

Last month, Shanni Naylor, 12, was slashed across the face by the blade from a pencil sharpener during an English lesson at a Sheffield school.

According to media reports, Shanni had been targeted because she had intervened the previous day to prevent her attacker bullying another pupil.

The attack left her needing 30 stitches to repair a facial wound.


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 Post subject: Girl, 12, in court over slashing
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A 12-year-old girl has appeared in court charged with attacking a fellow school pupil who was allegedly slashed across the face during a lesson.

The schoolgirl, who cannot be named for legal reasons, is accused of wounding another 12-year-old girl in an incident at a Sheffield school on 19 October.

The youngster, from the Sheffield area, confirmed her name, address and age in a hearing at Sheffield Youth Court.

The case was adjourned until 20 December at the same court.

The schoolgirl, who attended the hearing with members of her family, was granted conditional bail by District Judge Sheila Driver.

The victim, who also lives in Sheffield, had to have 30 stitches in her face after she was attacked.


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