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| Author: | Madeline [ 18 Nov 05, 18:33 ] |
| Post subject: | CIA director: torture is condoned |
Former CIA chief slams Bush over torture President Bush has threatened to veto a ruling by the American Senate to ban torture A former CIA director has claimed that torture is condoned and even approved by the Bush government. The accusations have been made by Admiral Stansfield Turner who labelled Dick Cheney "a vice president for torture". He said: "We have crossed the line into dangerous territory". The American Senate says torture should be banned - whatever the justification. But President Bush has threatened to veto the ruling. The former spymaster claims Mr Bush is not telling the truth when he says that torture is not a method used by the US. Speaking of Bush's claims that the US does not use torture, Admiral Turner, who ran the CIA from 1977 to 1981, said: "I do not believe him". On Dick Cheney he said "I'm embarrassed the United States has a vice president for torture." Admiral Turner's remarks were echoed by Republican Senator John McCain, himself a victim of torture in Vietnam. He said torturing to get information was immoral, was not effective and encouraged potential enemies to do the same. Both Mr Bush and Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice have repeatedly stated that torture by US forces is not condoned. Mar 8: Foreign torture claim levelled at US government Jun 23, 2004: Bush rejects Guantanamo torture claims ITV |
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| Author: | steve_o [ 18 Nov 05, 20:04 ] |
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So what was the point in removing the torturer Sadam then? When Bush made that speech about the torturers. I'm getting worried about the Yanks, when are they going to wake up  that two wrongs don't make a right. Bush seems to be turning towards the dark side, he'll be taking over the country soon and calling it the US American Empire next 
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| Author: | Madeline [ 18 Nov 05, 21:33 ] |
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This is nothing new we are just getting more info about the situation. |
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| Author: | Molly [ 20 Nov 05, 11:00 ] |
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What bothers me Madeline is the info we're not getting... My dad was a soldier and talks of colleagues who stole food (while on exercises) being restrained while their extremities were slammed in iron doors. Broken fingers, hands and feet. Soldiers who had broken rules being bound, doused in cold water and left lying in the snow for hours at a time (checked every half hour for signs of hypothermia...  ) and apparently the best way to beat somebody is with a knotted WET towel bcz that way there is pain but less bruising. And this treatment was meted out to their own side, the men who fight alongside them. It's been going on for years
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| Author: | Madeline [ 07 Dec 05, 14:09 ] |
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US shifts to ban cruelty to detainees abroad reuters |
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| Author: | Westy [ 07 Dec 05, 18:30 ] |
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Amnesty International are good at getting to the truth, they'll speak out about abuses WHOEVER is doing it, they had a letter writing campaign a few years ago to bring to attention people that are locked up for their beliefs and thoughts that they are not forgotten. Many were released from the letters alone. |
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