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Suffolk Murders Arrest
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ellie wrote:
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Ohh yeah,

The guy had done a BBC news interview last week, lol.

What a classic. Did I not say that?

Calrissian: as usual, correct.


Lol? Is this a laughing matter then?

ellie: curious as to whether or not Calrissian will take back his incorrect slur on the perpetrator being a Church worker or similar.


Well, its news trivia.

5 dead sex workers.

Meanwhile, Lake Victoria, Africa. FORTY million people are facing the end of their nation because the lake is drying up.

Oh, but they are black, so that doesn't matter then.

If you wanna play it by the numbers, and 'humanity' is about numbers right ? Then the African story outguns any localised serial killer.

If I had to do a 30min news broadcast, I'd choose to focus on saving 40million, not the sex-workers of suffolk. Yet, I guess you'll go with the local, since like most people, you're closed, and limited to both the trivial and the irrelevant.

Calrissian: Frak the trivia, focus on the global issues.


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[quote="Calrissian"]If I had to do a 30min news broadcast, I'd choose to focus on saving 40million, not the sex-workers of suffolk. Yet, I guess you'll go with the local, since like most people, you're closed, and limited to both the trivial and the irrelevant.


How incredibly arrogant you are to think you have any insight into whether or not I am closed. This is just the kind of insulting, inane comment I would expect from someone like you who seems to find it impossible on this board to ever climb down from your soap box and admit you may have been wrong. But just you carry on with your pontificating if it makes you happy.

And just for the record, I would not consider anyone's untimely death to be trivial. A victim is a victim as far as I am concerned.

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ellie wrote:
A victim is a victim as far as I am concerned.



Absolutely.

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well put ellie. :clap:


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The thread is specifically about these awful murders and Lake Victoria is getting off the subject.
There's no denying that 40 million people at risk is a huge issue. And it's true that sometimes we don't get as outraged about Africa as we should - although the paper I read this morning has as its Christmas appeal a fundraising campaign for a village in Darfur, so i don't think it's being completely ignored.
The point I'm trying to make is that although the issues in Africa are incredibly important, the British media will first and foremost focus on what's going on this country - and a serial killer is big news.
So points about Africa are appropriate and not ignored, but not what this thread is about, particularly.
Cal, I think I get what you're trying to say but humanity isn't just about numbers. I could talk about visiting Auschwitz in relation to that, but that's even more off topic so I won't.


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it is tragic to lose anybody to an unnecessary death - I am with Ellie on this one.....

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I dread to think what kind of society we would be if we weren't shocked and horrified by the murder of 5 young women who were already extremely vulnerable in the first place. I'm sure most of us are capable of caring about more than one thing at a time :roll:

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Second Suspect Arrested


A 48-year-old man has been arrested on suspicion of murdering five prostitutes in Suffolk - he is the second man to be held in the case.

He was arrested at his home in Ipswich at 5am.

Sky News has been told he lived near the red light district of the town.

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ohh, and he called himself 'the bishop'.

What more of a frakking religious connection do you people want ?
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Now you wanna bring the jews into it? Isn't that the point.
NUMBERS.

5 sex workers vs the massive 'real news', but most don't wanna focus on that. Just look at the various boards, see what stories get the most views/post.

Usually its the innane and trivial that gets focused on, and you guys just keep lapping it up like a thirsty kitty.

It is media hysteria, and the public are indeed quite enjoying this particular news story. Hey, even the government must be pleased. The ID database (a project worth tens of billions) is scrapped, but few will even know what the hell that is.

Ohh, and if you think those sex-workers ever contributed anything to society other than venerial diseases and shop theft, then you're just deluding yourself. They were worthless to society. If they weren't worthless, society would have decided to have helped them years ago.

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It looks like the suspect was an internet weirdo loner, then. One who wished to thrust his unedifying views onto people, no matter how little anyone else is interested :D

This generalising's fun, isn't it {@}

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[quote="Calrissian"]ohh, and he called himself 'the bishop'.

What more of a frakking religious connection do you people want ?
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So if I call myself a colonel does that mean I have any connection with the army? :roll: Or if you call yourself intelligent does that mean it is true?

Get a bloody grip and stop spouting crap just to get people to argue with you.

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The narrow minded ones who show the most hatred towards prostitutes are often the ones that pay for their services on a regular basis (probably the kinkier the better) and are actually repulsed with themselves.

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Calrissian wrote:
If they weren't worthless, society would have decided to have helped them years ago.



I'm never sure how 'society' can be defined...is it the Government, or individuals?

I do however know that there are 'outreaches' in most areas; people who do make an effort to help.

One I'm familiar with, established in 1989 (although some of the people involved have been helping since the late 1970's at least), in my own area is Ruhama - http://www.ruhama.ie/

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