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So now they have lost Dawn too but seem to be saying it was due to some rule breaking. Erm what could she have done to get herself removed from the house so soon after Shabaz.

More like she left after being denied her suitcase for duration of term in house and BB realise they have **cked up big time and rather than say that is why she left, they are going to make out she was removed for rule breaking.

Would make sense considering that how Shabaz went was covered up (no mention of staff going in and removing him from bathroom and saying he had to leave, in fact no refernce to the bathroom incident at all just looked like he decided to leave in Diary room)

Now Dawns walking out is being made to look like BB removed her for rule breaking as they know they will be slated for denying HM their own clothes just as they were slated for letting someone like Shabaz in who really should not have been in there.

IDid I miss something? E13lad, when did the staff go into the bathroom to talk to Shabaz and how do you know this?

Shabaz was going on about how he was going to die in the house etc

Went to bathroom and nobody else could get in. The other HM was asked to go to another part of the house while "bouncers" went in and got Shabaz out. The live feed was cut at that point.

If you have recorded BB from the night shabaz left just listen to the conversation in the DR. Shabaz did not ask to leave he was removed and was upset that he was going. If you listen to what was said at no time did BB say we are sorry to see you go or Shabaz saying he was pleased BB was letting him go or anything like that.

The reason BB told him he was going he didnt ask to go. With all the slating of BB in the press that day from mental health groups, they had to get him out but did not want to be seen to bowing to pressure.

Now Dawn has left and said she would if she didnt get her case and it is rumoured she has been removed for breaking rules.

Only nasty nick has been removed from BB house before so whatever she done must have been major, but will will probably be told she was removed for not washing or something as better than saying our actions of denying HM their possesions for duration of stay is ab abuse of our position.

Thanks for that E13lad. I didn't record it but now wish I had.

@ Ellie.

They should at least give Niknak one of her socks (for orafactory stuffing).

It was petty, lame and repititive to deprive them of their clothes.

There would have been enough moaning, paranoia and positioning for power without depriving them of clothes and deodorant.

Big Brother is just a dirty letch. You have to wonder about the mentality of Ch.4/Endemol.

Under-water cameras, urinals in the toilet, and putting in various models, promotions girls, porn stars and then depriving them of clothes.

I don't think the idiots of UK Endemol at all appreciate the show they are producing and the country they are producing it for.

Sex/Fake Romance in BB is DULL, DULL, DULL. Always has been, always will be.

Tom and Mel
Helen and Paul
Kate and Spencer
Alex and Adele
Chicken and Michelle
Jason and Vanessa
Victor and himself
Makosi and Anthony
Saskia and Maxwell
Imogen and Sleazer
Mikey and Grace



Wake me up when the fighting and b!tching starts.

It seems BB can switch cameras at will and show what is wanted and as we know a lot rests in the editing.

As a live feed watcher I have noticed how the edited clips on the main show OFTEN give a totally different perspective on what actually happened.

As I think most people who watch the live feeds realise by now, is that if BB want someone out of the house the will only show the 2 minutes of negative clips of a HM and none of the positive clips that make up the rest of the day, in the main show.

E13 - I'll take your word for it that they cut out the bathroom incident with Shagz, but they did say thanks to him in the DR for being a great HM and I thought it was very sensitively handled by the BB person who was speaking to him.

Terrible, I just can't see the point in it whatsoever.

Indeed but what I was talking about was there was no mention of whose decision it was or the reason why he was going. It was left to viewers to decide and as he had previously said he wanted to leave people just assume it was his decision

I'm happy with the initial manipulation of the group via the Big Brotherhood concept, but its time to give the other rats their cases.

Do the Hm's get stressed about the cases, sure, but they sure would'nt leave just because of it. They are too desperate to win to care much about how they look.

Calrissian: (ironically) was just cleaning his suitcase

How does keeping the suitcases improve the show for the viewer?

Its a pointless thing to do.

Well, they have 'given in' now and created some lame game to get Bonnie and Glyn thier things back.

Haha, that didn't take long then! That's as close as we'll get to BB coming out and saying 'yup, we messed up.'

Endemol are absolutely pathetic - I said early in the week that witholding the suitcases was an absolute disgrace.

Generation Suitcase

So they're pretty much giving them everything they need, without technically relenting in giving back their suitcases