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That's pretty much what the two psychologists were saying.

Something about Grace deliberately alienating Nikki, taking satisfaction from her discomfort, and the rest of the group using that as a bonding opportunity.

Not quite accurate, since Pete (thank the Lord) is very unreadable and bucks any classification they have.

How can you read Pete's body language when it consists of facial ticks, twitches and involuntary muscle spasms?

God Bless Pete! Another reason to like him, the psychologists won't be able to read him.

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pikeylass wrote:
alanlapin wrote:
That's pretty much what the two psychologists were saying.

Something about Grace deliberately alienating Nikki, taking satisfaction from her discomfort, and the rest of the group using that as a bonding opportunity.

Not quite accurate, since Pete (thank the Lord) is very unreadable and bucks any classification they have.

How can you read Pete's body language when it consists of facial ticks, twitches and involuntary muscle spasms?

God Bless Pete! Another reason to like him, the psychologists won't be able to read him.

I'm in the wrong job!


What!? You AREN'T a psychiatrist?

But you do such a good job with Blags and Hippo, I thought Christine had paid you to come here to straighten them out. (oo-er, there's a Freudian slip!)

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Its amazing how good those boys will be when I get my hair straighteners out.....


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BUT where has this come from? Saying Grace is a manipulator, cunning, sly, enjoying Nikkis discomfort etc...as far as I can see all she did was take offense at Nikki (who so far had done no cooking/housework) saying the meal she cooked was bad...then having a bit of a go at her about some of her behaviour...all things that the other HMs and the general public have been saying about her since day 1 also.

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Well I am just watching the highlights now and I can see how Grace has been a bitch. Firstly has she had a go to any of the boys who haven't cooked or anything? Also she seemed to be waiting for Nikki to do something, just so she could have a go. She may be younger but she is definitely more wily and more eloquent and does feel superior to Nikki, though this is hypocritical imo.

Nikki also is a pain in the butt and a spoilt liitle brat to boot, but at least she is entertaining. Grace and her bland bf (take your pick which one) is dull and thinks she is a hell of a lot smarter than she really is.

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Good points all Ellie. ()^

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Bleeding skyplus has just gone of as the blonde bint came out of the box. :evil:


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Well, she molested Glyn straight after.

And frankly, he'll never be the same man again.

I'd like to tell you what happened to him when Sam popped-out (oo-er) but it's too much to relate, even for me...

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Well, she molested Glyn straight

And frankly, he'll never be the same man again.



I didn't know he was gay. :angel:


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ellie wrote:
Well I am just watching the highlights now and I can see how Grace has been a bitch. Firstly has she had a go to any of the boys who haven't cooked or anything? Also she seemed to be waiting for Nikki to do something, just so she could have a go. She may be younger but she is definitely more wily and more eloquent and does feel superior to Nikki, though this is hypocritical imo.

Nikki also is a pain in the butt and a spoilt liitle brat to boot, but at least she is entertaining. Grace and her bland bf (take your pick which one) is dull and thinks she is a hell of a lot smarter than she really is.


But none of the boys complained about the food...maybe she was spoiling for a fight, but is that any different to when Nikki kicked off about the glamour modelling conversation (and ironically she went off to moan about it to people who were also slagging off glamour models at the time! - but she didn't say anything to them about that!), it was obvious she was spoiling for a fight then. The only difference is that Nikki was wrong so didn't get much support...and this time around Grace was right/was just saying what the whole group was feeling so she got support.

I just don't understand the logic that it's Ok for Nikki because her behaviour is entertaining, but it's not ok for Grace (to even breath it seems) who'll get called all the names under the sun.

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Oh I don't think it is ok for Nikki and I did start my post saying how I could see how they both behaved badly. I just would prefer to watch Nikki than Grace. I think Nikki is showing her real personality, that of a spoilt brat, wheras I think Grace is pretending to have a personality.

And I don't think Grace would have said anything to any of the boys if they had been stroppy about the food. I think she sees Nikki as an easy target.


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It's called hypocrisy, Starlet.

Grace is being hypocritical about:

the food
the 'spoilt' behaviour
the scantily clad prancing
the b!tching
the stroppy behaviour

And the food argument was different to the glamour argument.

Nikki wasn't stating Grace couldn't cook. Grace however was implying that glamour modelling was cheap, tacky and beneath her.

She later denied it, then a day later confirmed that actually that WAS what she meant when she was slaughtering Nikki's character in the garden with Inmygyn and Georgie (who will now reflexively follow whatever Grace says).

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Further proof that Club Desperate are a bunch of sickening, smug schemers who think are going to divide, isolate and bitch their way to victory (they are fast becoming as vile as Makosi's Mob).

Hard House Ch.4 BB site:

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Day 12, 22:58
They've only been in five minutes, and the new housemates are already getting abuse.

Imogen, Sezer and Grace spent all of 60 seconds getting to know Aisleyne and Sam, before scurrying off to say nasty things about them.

"I'm gonna give her a hard time, the promotions girl," glowered Sezer.

"It's another Nikki," said Grace.

"The reason they brought them in is to even up the groups, because Richard's group is crumbling," added Sezer. "Lea and Richard are already latching on to them."

"Richard is licking a***, he can f*** off," scowled Imogen.

Lisa turned up to add some fuel to the fire, saying: "Richard and Lea have been being false with me for days anyway."

"That blonde one, you can imagine what she'll look like without make-up," added Grace cattily.

"We got rid of one mongrel and now we've got another one, s*** for s***!" said Sezer, much to the others' amusement. "They'll slip up," he concluded ominously.

Well it's nice to see they're giving the new guys a chance...


aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand:

We Will Survive Ch.4 BB site:

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Day 13, 00:15
Sam and Aisleyne made their first trip to the Diary Room tonight, and it seems they've already noticed their lukewarm reception. But the 27-year-old blonde for one insists the House bullies won't push her around.

"Sezer is picking on me a bit, but I won't be having that for much longer," she announced. The model also issued a thinly veiled threat to Imogen, saying: "In the school playground, if a boy fancies you, they pick on you. Watch this space."

Sam said she felt "apprehensive" after seeing the housemates' reaction, commenting on the fact that: "One or two of them went off in one direction." But she added diplomatically: "I want to get to know everyone better and see how things work out."

"We could be queen bitches," said the feistier Aisleyne, adding, "I love this chair."

"It's like a..." started Sam, before the blonde finished her sentence with "porno room".

Like she said, watch this space.

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Apparently that Sam thing is only 18!!! OMG!!!


"that Sam thing"? :evil:


I'll second that sentiment.

Can we please not refer to Sam as a 'thing' or 'it'.

Sam is a human being. Call Sam 'he' or 'she' as you please, but Sam is a person, not an object. How s/he chooses to live her life and view her identity/gender is entirely her concern. How we respond is our (potential, but not necessarily) problem.

I am one of the worst here for calling housemates names (not always in jest), but I still recognise the humanity of the HMs, if sometimes I too eagerly seek to strip them of their dignity (and in so doing lose a little of my own, if there is any left).

That's if the HMs haven't beaten me to it and reduced themselves to national laughing stocks. Hello Shahbaz! :wave:

I'll get down from the pulpit now, there's a terrible draught gone right up my cassock... ;)

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I don't know if this has been raised yet, but has anyone thought that salmongate may have something to do with Nikki's anorexia?

I'll really don't know a lot about anoerxia, but what I think is that, being body conscious, and having low self-esteem, if an anorexia is feeling depressed, the last thing they want to do is eat, and make themselves 'fat' (in their own low self-image/definition of what constitutes 'acceptable' body-shape) and therefore feel even worse about themselves for being 'overweight'.

So it may be that Nikki just didn't have an appetitie, whether that was salmon, or for whatever is her favourite food.

Clearly she is still anorexic, and clearly she was depressed. I think the rest of them could have been a little more tolerant of her, even though she is a drama queen and immature.

It was certainly not worth the food fight Grace deliberately turned it into. (Remember, she audibly bitched to Sleazer while Nikki was sitting a few feet away.)

Crying over spilt milk. It always happens in shared households.

Roberto - "You want your food? Here's your f-cking food!" :eek: ::lol::

Sandy - "For f-ck's sake, either order Chinese or order Indian! Does it f-cking matter?"

Science - "Where's my salad cream? And what's this in my mince!"

Chantelle - "We've run out of Kuorn!"

etc., etc., etc., All this in a world in which millions are dangerously malnourished, and thousands of people die daily of starvation.

Oh well, you can't get a lab rat to run through a maze without the promise/smell of cheese at the end of it. And Big Brother is nothing if not cheesy (like my jokes!)

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