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Author:  Christine [ 26 May 06, 14:35 ]
Post subject:  Shahbaz Replacement

Quote:
OFF-licence robber Colin Elliott is on Big Brother standby. Channel 4, unaware the 24-year-old has 11 convictions stretching back ten years, rang to say he might replace Shahbaz. Elliott, of North Shields, North Tyneside, said: “They don’t do a very good job with their checks.”
:eek:

The Sun

Author:  Spawn of Blagman [ 26 May 06, 14:38 ]
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Has the Bb selection process been subcontracted out to the Home Office ??

Author:  Matthew Goodyear [ 26 May 06, 14:40 ]
Post subject:  Re: Shahbaz Replacement

Christine wrote:
Quote:
OFF-licence robber Colin Elliott is on Big Brother standby. Channel 4, unaware the 24-year-old has 11 convictions stretching back ten years, rang to say he might replace Shahbaz. Elliott, of North Shields, North Tyneside, said: “They don’t do a very good job with their checks.”
:eek:

The Sun


I dont think it should really matter if they have convictions..big deal.
If they have done their time, so be it.

Author:  darkhawk76 [ 26 May 06, 14:51 ]
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surely it depends on what a (potential) HM's convictions were

I wouldn't want somebody who was guilty of rape, murder or assault in BB house

Author:  Matthew Goodyear [ 26 May 06, 15:12 ]
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darkhawk76 wrote:
surely it depends on what a (potential) HM's convictions were

I wouldn't want somebody who was guilty of rape, murder or assault in BB house


So you dont believe in do the crime do the time?

Author:  cheekiechickie [ 26 May 06, 15:27 ]
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The trouble is that if you have been guilty of a crime unfortunately the facts are you are more likely to reoffend.

In the BB house it's not about what they have done but more a case of what they might do in there.

Author:  darkhawk76 [ 26 May 06, 15:47 ]
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Matthew Goodyear wrote:
darkhawk76 wrote:
surely it depends on what a (potential) HM's convictions were

I wouldn't want somebody who was guilty of rape, murder or assault in BB house


So you dont believe in do the crime do the time?


it wouldn't matter what I thought

the victims of said crime wouldn't be happy that the person responsible was appearing on BB, it would probably be very painful for them

Author:  CameronBB4 [ 26 May 06, 22:33 ]
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Looks like their policy might have changed. Once upon a time housemates were discounted if they had a criminal record, iIrc.

Author:  steve_o [ 27 May 06, 0:06 ]
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Must be because decent people don't wana go in there no more :-?

Author:  Bunny [ 27 May 06, 0:07 ]
Post subject:  Re: Shahbaz Replacement

Christine wrote:
Quote:
OFF-licence robber Colin Elliott is on Big Brother standby. Channel 4, unaware the 24-year-old has 11 convictions stretching back ten years, rang to say he might replace Shahbaz. Elliott, of North Shields, North Tyneside, said: “They don’t do a very good job with their checks.”
:eek:

The Sun


This sounds highly unlikely.

Author:  AJ100 [ 27 May 06, 1:37 ]
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Article from the Sun Online:

Sezer in rape quiz
By KATHRYN LISTER, EMMA COX
and TONY BONNICI

BIG Brother romeo Sezer was arrested for alleged date rape, The Sun can reveal.

The City trader, 26, was bundled into a police car as his mum watched and taken to a station for questioning.

Cops investigated for six months and interviewed him several times before the case was dropped due to lack of evidence.

Sezer’s family yesterday confirmed the arrest, but insisted he was totally innocent. Brother

Ozer Yurtseven, 28, said: “This isn’t a shock, we knew something would come out.

He was cleared and no charges were brought. The police knew exactly what had happened. The whole thing was just a total load of rubbish really.”

But the alleged victim told The Sun her life had been left in tatters.

And the pretty secretary, who we are calling Lucy to protect her anonymity, said she felt sick when she saw him on the Channel 4 show — which is meant to do police checks on housemates.

She said: “I haven’t seen him for two years but he hasn’t changed a bit in looks. What really angered me was him saying he treated girls like princesses.”

Lucy, 24, said the alleged attack happened in March 2004 after she met Sezer in a London nightclub.

She claimed he bought champagne for her and a pal as he chatted her up.

The pair arranged to meet the next Saturday at her parents’ Surrey home.

She said: “He was staying at a local hotel and I made it clear I would not be joining him after our dinner date.

“The plan was to eat at a restaurant but — as he was late — he suggested having dinner at his hotel.”

Lucy claimed to police that she was then raped. She reported the alleged attack and had medical checks.

Sezer was arrested at his North London home.

But the case was eventually dropped and Lucy said: “It felt like I’d gone to hell and back for nothing.”

Sezer’s mum Feriha, 46, said of his arrest: “It was a nightmare. But I know my boy, he’d not do a thing like that.”

A Big Bruv spokeswoman refused to say if they were aware of Sezer’s arrest, but said: “No charges were brought and he has not been convicted of any offence. That means he is entitled to be treated as anyone else.”
____________________________________________________________

Now who knows the truth behind this story, but as someone earlier said in this thread, the victim of any crime that a housemate may have committed is bound to be affected seeing them on TV day in day out.

Author:  Matthew Goodyear [ 27 May 06, 11:00 ]
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cheekiechickie wrote:
The trouble is that if you have been guilty of a crime unfortunately the facts are you are more likely to reoffend.

In the BB house it's not about what they have done but more a case of what they might do in there.


That doesnt make sense.
Are you saying if you are caught your more likely to do it again?

I would have thought if you wern't caught and convicted then you'd be more likely to do it some more....

Author:  Matthew Goodyear [ 27 May 06, 11:02 ]
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darkhawk76 wrote:
Matthew Goodyear wrote:
darkhawk76 wrote:
surely it depends on what a (potential) HM's convictions were

I wouldn't want somebody who was guilty of rape, murder or assault in BB house


So you dont believe in do the crime do the time?


it wouldn't matter what I thought

the victims of said crime wouldn't be happy that the person responsible was appearing on BB, it would probably be very painful for them


Sorry to keep playing the devils advocate....
but they could then choose not to watch.

Why do we put people in jail if we are going to keep punishing them once they get out?

Author:  Matthew Goodyear [ 27 May 06, 11:03 ]
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CameronBB4 wrote:
Looks like their policy might have changed. Once upon a time housemates were discounted if they had a criminal record, iIrc.


But why?

A criminal record just means you got caught.
Ten years ago i did time.
Today i have a nice little family and work in an Australian government department.

Author:  Matthew Goodyear [ 27 May 06, 11:05 ]
Post subject: 

AJ100 wrote:
Article from the Sun Online:

Sezer in rape quiz
By KATHRYN LISTER, EMMA COX
and TONY BONNICI

BIG Brother romeo Sezer was arrested for alleged date rape, The Sun can reveal.

The City trader, 26, was bundled into a police car as his mum watched and taken to a station for questioning.

Cops investigated for six months and interviewed him several times before the case was dropped due to lack of evidence.

Sezer’s family yesterday confirmed the arrest, but insisted he was totally innocent. Brother

Ozer Yurtseven, 28, said: “This isn’t a shock, we knew something would come out.

He was cleared and no charges were brought. The police knew exactly what had happened. The whole thing was just a total load of rubbish really.”

But the alleged victim told The Sun her life had been left in tatters.

And the pretty secretary, who we are calling Lucy to protect her anonymity, said she felt sick when she saw him on the Channel 4 show — which is meant to do police checks on housemates.

She said: “I haven’t seen him for two years but he hasn’t changed a bit in looks. What really angered me was him saying he treated girls like princesses.”

Lucy, 24, said the alleged attack happened in March 2004 after she met Sezer in a London nightclub.

She claimed he bought champagne for her and a pal as he chatted her up.

The pair arranged to meet the next Saturday at her parents’ Surrey home.

She said: “He was staying at a local hotel and I made it clear I would not be joining him after our dinner date.

“The plan was to eat at a restaurant but — as he was late — he suggested having dinner at his hotel.”

Lucy claimed to police that she was then raped. She reported the alleged attack and had medical checks.

Sezer was arrested at his North London home.

But the case was eventually dropped and Lucy said: “It felt like I’d gone to hell and back for nothing.”

Sezer’s mum Feriha, 46, said of his arrest: “It was a nightmare. But I know my boy, he’d not do a thing like that.”

A Big Bruv spokeswoman refused to say if they were aware of Sezer’s arrest, but said: “No charges were brought and he has not been convicted of any offence. That means he is entitled to be treated as anyone else.”
____________________________________________________________

Now who knows the truth behind this story, but as someone earlier said in this thread, the victim of any crime that a housemate may have committed is bound to be affected seeing them on TV day in day out.


But doesnt it then become the victims choice as to wether they watch or not?


If you ostracise a theif...what choice do you give him but to reoffend?

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