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 Post subject: Big Brother win for Rachel Rice
PostPosted: 06 Sep 08, 1:31 
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Rachel Rice was greeted by cheers and fireworks as she left the house after 93 days

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The Rice is right for Big Bro 9

THRILLED Rachel Rice was in dreamland after winning the ninth series of Big Brother last night.
The Welsh brunette, 24, declared: “These things just don’t happen.”

She told show host Davina McCall “Honestly, you dream about going on Big Brother but then when you actually win it’s like, how?”

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 Post subject: Re: Big Brother win for Rachel Rice
PostPosted: 06 Sep 08, 13:44 
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Congratulations to Rachel!

I think Rachel is a genuinely nice person who edged out Mikey in the end because she's a warmer character.

However, I do think Rachel is far smarter, far sharper & far more opinionated in the 'real world'. But she is a Big Brother addict & employed a strategy that would give her a good chance to get to the final - & when you get to the final, anything can happen.
Rachel's hard-sell on her audition video & the fact that she battled incredibly hard when Endemol were checking out the pre-BB9 groups prior to choosing the housemates suggests Rachel is at least slightly different in 'real life' than her persona throughout BB9 suggested.

Conclusion: Rachel deserved the chance of winning because of her consistent behaviour in the house, especially when you consider that most of the other housemates had too many negative characteristics... on show.
Rachel was nice & considered throughout.
I never thought Rachel was boring - you don't have to be 'real' as many housemates lie to you - to be considered a worthy finalist or winner.
And you don't have to run round like a loony or be incredibly vocal to have a chance of winning either.

However, I don't think Rachel is a little pixie away with the fairies.

She's a qualified teacher who teaches kids but doesn't know how many days there are in a year?
That's about as unbelievable as Brian Belo from BB8 saying he's never heard of Shakespeare even though he was doing a media course before BB8? Fair enough, Brian's probably not that bright academically speaking - but might he have at least heard of Shakespeare??

You can be thick in many ways on BB as Darnell & Dennis proved, Stuart from BB2, etc., - but, apparently, falsely attempting to show lack of knowledge 'appears' to be a strategy - this probably started after people watched Helen on BB2.
Jade Goody's talk of eskimos on CBB5 was excruciatingly embarrassing & a total set-up.
Her boyfriend at the time - that vile Jack person saying he didn't know what an 'embryo' was, wasn't.

Good luck to Rachel though.

ps: Lisa should have been in the final.

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 Post subject: Re: Big Brother win for Rachel Rice
PostPosted: 06 Sep 08, 13:52 
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Teachers don't have to know all the facts.

Though let's hope that part of what Rachel learned from her time in the BB house was the number of days in a year. :D

To be a good teacher, you need to be enthusiastic about your students' progress, genuinely care about them as individuals, and encourage them.

Having seen my children go from the start of primary school to starting University, the teachers who were made a real difference were the ones who had the ability to draw out the best from each child. Indeed, when my oldest started school, her teacher spoke to us parents, telling us that the word 'educate' comes from the Latin 'educo' - to draw out, to foster.

Education should be about more than stuffing kids' heads with facts. Children will succeed in tons of ways - academically, socially, personally - if they feel they are valued for who they are.

I think Rachel has the abilities to be a good teacher.

A teacher can read up on a chapter she's about to 'teach', the night before.

That's the easy part. Being patient, caring, encouraging and good-humoured is a lot more difficult. I reckon Rachel has the skills for the job.

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 Post subject: Re: Big Brother win for Rachel Rice
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Funny?
My primary school teachers knew how many days there were in the year, all the festival dates, etc.

Of course I understand the multiple qualities a primary school teacher has to have.
But ignorance, feigned or otherwise on a trivial piece of TV entertainment isn't one of them.

Good luck to Rachel, I like her, but she will have to prove she didn't know how many days there are in a year.

As I said, I don't think she's away with the fairies - an image she like liked to promote.
Did I think Rachel deserved to beat Rex? - hell yeah.

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 Post subject: Re: Big Brother win for Rachel Rice
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Rachel also didn't know what the word 'peril' meant!

Looking at her, you would think she is very sweet, childlike, naive etc, but she can't really be I wouldn't think, because she entered the Miss Wales contest and she has been a child actress on TV and does drama.


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 Post subject: Re: Big Brother win for Rachel Rice
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You can enter the Miss Wales contest after been a child actress and be very sweet and naive with it.
I would think Rachel will feel rightly pleased that the only thing she can be accused of is a lack of general knowledge; whereas her nemesis in the house where lacking in, manners, civility and any sense of fair play. I am sure she will acquire all the knowledge she will need, but can you really see the other housemates that tormented her in the house becoming nicer human beings?


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 Post subject: Re: Big Brother win for Rachel Rice
PostPosted: 06 Sep 08, 18:59 
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Yay! just watched the final shows - I was so happy at the result I thought...'I must be dreaming...NOBODY PINCH ME!' ::lol::

Seriously, I would have liked Mikey to win with Rachel in second place - but once I saw Darnell, Rex and Sara evicted I was happy enough and didn't mind who won then.

It made me lol when I heard the song they played when Rex was evicted - George Thorogood's 'Bad To The Bone' - it's one of my fave songs...I have the intro as my mobile ringtone.

Congrats to Rachel, winner of BB9. ()^

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 Post subject: Re: Big Brother win for Rachel Rice
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gerbilgranny wrote:
Teachers don't have to know all the facts.

Though let's hope that part of what Rachel learned from her time in the BB house was the number of days in a year. :D

To be a good teacher, you need to be enthusiastic about your students' progress, genuinely care about them as individuals, and encourage them.

Having seen my children go from the start of primary school to starting University, the teachers who were made a real difference were the ones who had the ability to draw out the best from each child. Indeed, when my oldest started school, her teacher spoke to us parents, telling us that the word 'educate' comes from the Latin 'educo' - to draw out, to foster.

Education should be about more than stuffing kids' heads with facts. Children will succeed in tons of ways - academically, socially, personally - if they feel they are valued for who they are.

I think Rachel has the abilities to be a good teacher.

A teacher can read up on a chapter she's about to 'teach', the night before.

That's the easy part. Being patient, caring, encouraging and good-humoured is a lot more difficult. I reckon Rachel has the skills for the job.


Well said, GG. You have great insight into what a teacher's job is (and it's really wonderful to hear that from a parent, as some think it's all about beating as much info into their child as possible). I'm now into my 23rd year of teaching the 4-7 age group, and I actually think that Rachel will make a really good teacher. She wasn't my favourite to win, but she did show the sort of behaviours people would expect from a teacher - such as encouraging others, being interested in them, and having lots of patience.

As for Rachel not knowing about how many days are in a year...well the jury's out on that one. But isn't she going to be a drama teacher? Presumably she doesn't need to know, then. That's general knowledge, and absolutely nothing to do with teaching ability. My colleage can't spell "beautiful" (I noticed one day passing the classroom!!). But this teacher brings the absolute best out of pupils. And Rachel is due to start her career, after a year's teacher training, I think. I went into the job through the degree followed by a year's PGCE too, and your actual experience with kids is limited until you get your first job!

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 Post subject: Re: Big Brother win for Rachel Rice
PostPosted: 07 Sep 08, 21:18 
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 Post subject: Re: Big Brother win for Rachel Rice
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 Post subject: Re: Big Brother win for Rachel Rice
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 Post subject: Re: Big Brother win for Rachel Rice
PostPosted: 09 Sep 08, 19:42 
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Also from RTE - Big Brother Blog:

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Rachel is a deserving winner for all kinds of reasons, but mostly because
she's just a nice person. She kept a dignified silence when faced with snide
remarks and hurtful jibes. She hugged the people who were crying and, more
importantly, she was never the reason that anyone else was crying. She's just
sweet and not fake as everyone accused her of being, proving that, despite
all our cynicism, there are genuine people left in the world. Maybe it's the
best lesson we could have learned from a 'Big Brother' that seemed to
encourage nastiness and backstabbing (or is the point of the whole show, as
Rex suggested in his post-eviction interview).

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 Post subject: Re: Big Brother win for Rachel Rice
PostPosted: 09 Sep 08, 20:46 
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I know that she wasn't fake during the show, but that being the case, then she was fake at her auditions and what is more, she actually lied at her auditions (because she said she was a bitch). I rate honesty very highly indeed in a person no matter what the circumstances. You could say, well maybe she wasn't lying about that, but then if that was the case, she was being fake in the house. She had studied Big Brother and knew exactly how to act at the Auditions and then how to be in the house. She is obviously a good actress, so her chosen career should be right for her.

I also feel that she may have held some of herself back during the show, by biting her tongue and not expressing her opinions enough. Apparently, she had opinions at the Auditions and even managed to silence the whole room. Well, that is not the Rachel we saw. I can understand a bit of acting up, but not to that extent. I would say that she was one of the biggest gameplayers in there (not so much in the house maybe, but definitely in order to get in there and then just by being nice and biting her tongue and holding back her opinions - she even told Davina that she held back on purpose)

I don't agree that she was a deserving winner. She would have been if it was a show to find the nicest person, but it was an Entertainment programme and we needed entertaining. I feel that a winner should be a good all rounder if possible. Rachel ticks most of the boxes, but falls short on the entertaining side in my opinion. I reckon that Kat going early may have helped her chances, because I imagine the Kat supporters probably liked Rachel as well. She also not only had Wales behind her, but also probably a large majority of the DS forum as well.

Having said all that, she does seem to be a nice girl, but I just feel let down and don't feel I can completely like her because of her deceit at the Auditions. I also feel that Rex helped her chances, because up to that point we had hardly seen her, so again she was missing for the first half of the show, which hardly makes her entertaining.


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 Post subject: Re: Big Brother win for Rachel Rice
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 Post subject: Re: Big Brother win for Rachel Rice
PostPosted: 09 Sep 08, 22:38 
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Christine wrote:

She also not only had Wales behind her, but also probably a large majority of the DS forum as well.



DS:BB is like most other Big Brother forums - all sorts of opinions. While it's true that Rachel topped their 'Favourite Housemate' poll towards the end of this year's series (as she topped many other polls), I would estimate that there was about an equal number of 'pro-Rachel' and 'anti-Rachel' threads posted on that forum. It's not like Rachel was the local heroine on there. As far as I know it's not common knowledge what her Username was, when she posted on DS:BB. I think she was viewed like any other Housemate. DS:BB is not known for being a 'gentle' place where every Housemate is cherished!

I know you don't think she's a deserving winner, Christine, and I didn't post the 'quote' from the RTE Blog to try and prove that my view was correct. I would doubt that anyone on a forum has ever succeeded in 'converting' someone else to their viewpoint!

I was struck by the following line:

She hugged the people who were crying and, more importantly, she was never the reason that anyone else was crying.

I hadn't seen 'it put like that before'. I would have highlighted the sentence, but that would be a bit like lecturing, I thought!

I totally understand that a Big Brother full of amicable and non-confrontational characters would be very boring. As I said before, Cinderella's story would be less interesting without the Ugly Sisters, Red Riding Hood's tale would be dull without the Big Bad Wolf. We need contrast to be entertained, but in my opinion, that doesn't necessarily mean that the 'villains' have to emerge as the winners.

I was impressed by Rachel's ability to stay calm and not rise to the bait. I would like to ask her if she was born that way, or whether it's a skill she acquired. If it's something she 'worked on', I find that inspiring!

I understand how people would feel disappointed that Rachel won. Indeed no matter who won, there would be people who would have been disappointed with the result.

What I find slightly amusing is that some people feel that it's an outrage that Rachel won - when the reason she won was because she got the most votes. We can only 'blame' the voters for the result. Or in my case, I can only be grateful to them for agreeing with my preference. ;)

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