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Keep the Noirin in. Without all day live feed, this year BB wouldn't have been worth staying with if it hadn't been for the Noirin effect.

Ugh no, she's vile

Seen some live feed from last night and she is one egocentric, manipulative princess. Cannot stand her any more.

No doubt that Noirin has been amping up the gameplaying of late, Kris' eviction being the catalyst for that IMO. One of the rare times Marcus was right in regards to something about her was on LF last night when he said that it was hard for people to keep up with her as she changes her mind from one day to the next. She replied 'yeah, but I don't give a f**k' and he said 'but other people do', which is true as how can HMs have any faith in what she says when she does exactly the opposite the next day?

Anyway, the Marcus/Tom chat was interesting, the bit that stuck out for me was when Tom told Marcus that the Noirin chasing was boring (he said 'no it isn't, you can draw a line under that right now') and it was just a bit weird and creepy, to which he said 'well you saying that makes me think you have an agenda'. So Marcus is going to be telling a lot of viewers that what they're watching isn't boring (maybe he'll get a job with BB?!) and that they all have agendas I guess Marcus should have really taken Tom's hint that this is what the majority of viewers think but Marcus, not very good at picking up hints and obsessed with Tom being the bad guy, chose not to.

Couldn't believe Noirin was telling Sophie about the Siavash thing. She might as well have hijacked the BB booth and made an announcement over the speaker. Least it would have spared us Sophie's smug face when she's able to stir things up.

Apparently, Tom had hinted at Siavash and Freddie being popular on the outside. Cue Noirin diving in for an under-duvet snog with Siavash. Nasty girl. Surely even her defenders on here are starting to see what a madam she is?

Siavash and Noirin had become close friends well before Tom arrived - even Marcus was very annoyed about how close they were getting since they made up after the rabbit argument.

Why is Noirin the 'nasty' person in this? Siavash is the one who is supposed to be in a relationship. Noirin warned Siavash about the consequences but Siavash said he'd risk anything for a chance of them getting together, or words to that effect.

You can lead a horse to water ...

Two adults confined together in a house for seven weeks having a quick snog ...is... I imagine, all that Noirin sees it as - and how Siavash will explain it to his g/f when he gets out. It suited both of them at the time.

Personally, I'm not defending anyone, I'm only commenting on things the way I see them.

Tom totally showed Marcus up on live feed - wish it could all be shown on h/l show.

Oh but did you see Sophies face after she was told, she was wetting herself trying to find a chance to tell everyone behind Noirins back. But we will never see that as the BB line is that Sophie is sweet and nice and inocent.

Geena - I'm not sure that the Noirin/Siavash thing is the crux of the issue here (personally, I think it would be quite nice if they genuinely fell for each other), more Noirin's changing behaviour over the course of the show, of which there is yet more evidence emerging today. After the Siavash thing apparently brewing for weeks and her giggling like a schoolgirl and kissing him and saying how happy she was, within 1 day she goes to the diary room to tell them that she fancies Tom and is gonna tell him how she feels. I mean really, WTF?! Have they even (been allowed to) have a conversation of any length yet?!

Evidence here

I agree she's a madam. She is definitely a game player - even the way she told BB that having a relationship in the house was not the way to go, as people who do that are hated on the outside.

She's never shown any sign of fancying Siavash - though her eyes positively lit up at first sight of Tom. She's saying she likes Freddie now, which is probs partly because of Tom's indication of Freddie and Siavash being popular. Play too many games like that and the public won't let you win, dear!

To quote myself from this thread




so 30 mins or so later Siavash is told he is dumped by Noirin.

So its one thing to tell the DR that its another to tell Bea.

The girl is a loonie, a very mixed up loonie. Ho can she fancy Tom, is Tom even interested in her? He dosent fit the profile of the planks that seem to find her alluring. I say again shes a one date lady, she may look great but her personality would be a turn off to most men.

Because she's manipulating people.

It was obvious (to me at least) that Noirin fancied Tom the moment she set eyes on him. However, as always, Noirin listened to and believed others like Siavash and Marcus telling her (for their own agenda) Tom was fake, repeating stuff Tom was supposed to have said and that the only interest he had in her was for his own agenda.

I believe Siavash felt threathned by Tom for the same reasons Marcus does, and that's why Siavash finally got all lovey-dovey with Noirin, telling her he no longer fancied his g/f (btw, the g/f that Siavash hinted to Noirin but admitted to Sophie on live feed didn't exist) and it all lead to a quick snog. Siavash (the coward and liar) by the way he's acting, regrets that snog now as much as Noirin does.IMO

Noirin now knows she should have went with her gut instinct about how she felt about Tom, and has every right to change her mind. It's not as if Noirin has commited herself to Siavash nor he to her. Wheter or not Tom is interest in Noirin remains to be seen.

I'm off out for the rest of the day now so can't do any more posts.

But I just like to ask, has anyone wondered why Siavash - the guy who swore he wouldn't be taken in by Noirin, all of a sudden when Tom arrives starts going from being friends to getting all lovey-dovey with Noirin?

Yep, you go on thinking that Noirin is just an innocent girl caught up in circumstances, Geena

And when she's bouncing up and down on Tom's lap then the next day changing her mind and treating him like the devil incarnate, that will all just be a woman's prerogative right?

Sheesh - you're as blind as the men in there to her nasty, manipulative ways.

Noirin has never [willingly] bounced up and down on any of the mens laps, if you mean when she sat on Marcus's knee and he bounced her up and down on his lap then that is a different matter.
Have you no opinion on the randy behaviour of Marcus, Sree and Siavash towards the girls in the house for their own sexual gratification, or are you of the mind that it is okay for the men to be sexual and have needs but it is not okay for females to do the same?

Weak men - GET THEM OUT!