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finchy · **Joined:** 16 Jun 02, 3:46 **Posts:** 11820

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"ALL six remaining housemates are up for eviction tomorrow night."

I can only imagine this meant Charlie, Siavash and Sophie face it automatically for not nominating, Rodrigo voted Lisa and David and Lisa and David voted for Siavash but gave Sophie & Rodrigo one each, that'd see everyone up.

Madeline

Lets hope any viewers left see through the blatant vote rigging BB is doing. :oops:

finchy · **Joined:** 16 Jun 02, 3:46 **Posts:** 11820

If it is how I suggested it might be, then they haven't done anything approaching rigging (for a change). They've counted the votes of people who did vote and punished those who didn't with automatic facing of the public vote, that's as fair as it could be under the circumstances.

Madeline

The people who voted should not be punished only the fools that didn't vote should be put up,
and one of them should pay the price on Tuesday night.

finchy · **Joined:** 16 Jun 02, 3:46 **Posts:** 11820

So you want the people who refused to follow the BB rules (by not nominating others to face the public vote) punished but then want the rules thrown out the window for the people who were nominated to be let off from what should happen to them?

Still, with any luck you'll get your wish and Nana will be put into a home which isn't the BB house.

Madeline

finchy wrote:

So you want the people who refused to follow the BB rules (by not nominating others to face the public vote) punished

Yes. BB is the one in charge not some lying cheat who only breaks the rules to save himself.
BB made sure the housemates found out about the twofaced Siavash and Sophie when they showed them previous nomination.
For sure Siavash and Sophie knew they would be up so they try the old ploy again - BB should do what is right and punish them not the housemates that nominated.

finchy · **Joined:** 16 Jun 02, 3:46 **Posts:** 11820

Well if you agree that BB is in charge, then you agree that it's their decision to follow their own rules and put people up for the chop accordingly then.

Even though you're ignoring Charlie not voting either, which of Siavash and Sophie's nominations would you say are two faced? I don't think either of them have told another HM that they really like them then gone in the diary room and voted for them, which is surely what the definition of it would be in this scenario. Unless you're suggesting that if a HM is going to vote for another then they should make no effort to get on with them (as to do so would be 'two faced') and spend the week ignoring or abusing them instead? No wonder you like Lisa if so.

boltonlad

Madeline wrote:

Lets hope any viewers left see through the blatant vote rigging BB is doing. :oops:

so for the viewers that see through the "blatant vote rigging" that you say.....what do you hope they do?

Stinky · **Joined:** 04 Jun 09, 18:18 **Posts:** 4836

Madeline wrote:

The people who voted should not be punished only the fools that didn't vote should be put up,
and one of them should pay the price on Tuesday night.

That suits me we can get rid of Charlie reserving 5th & 4th for Davo and Lisa on Friday and Rodders Siavash and Sophie can fight it out to who is boo`d as winner this year. {@}

But Finchys point is more logical BB rules wise, as a producer of the show I would want to drop the dross ASAP, mind you that is all of them in my opinion.

They should of just started the vote to win earlier this year

Bunny

Madeline wrote:

Lets hope any viewers left see through the blatant vote rigging BB is doing. :oops:

The idea of having nominations this late in the day is stupid anyway, and seeing as they're all up, what's being rigged? I expect we will see David or Lisa go this Tuesday. I would love for it to be Charlie, but he's a shoo-in for the final night.

Bunny

And come on - what's with this tired old "two-faced" business? EVERYONE is two-faced. Anyone who says they aren't is lying. We all tell lies, act in a two-faced manner and don't say what we think because if we didn't, all hell would break loose. It's a societal norm for people to tell lies to save people's feelings or keep the peace. I don't believe anyone who says they never lie, are never two-faced and always say exactly what they think - they're telling a big fat lie right there!

Madeline

finchy wrote:

Well if you agree that BB is in charge, then you agree that it's their decision to follow their own rules and put people up for the chop accordingly then.
BB is clapping her hands at the blunder Siavash has made with his refusal to nominate, to save his own neck, because she has now used the rule break to pander to Heatworld, the Sun and Daily star to save Sophie and Siavash. BB has not been in charge since those publication got their grubby hands on the show.
Even though you're ignoring Charlie not voting either, which of Siavash and Sophie's nominations would you say are two faced?

I was not only talking about their nominations, when I say their are two faced I am referring to their whole game plan.

Unless you're suggesting that if a HM is going to vote for another then they should make no effort to get on with them (as to do so would be 'two faced') and spend the week ignoring or abusing them instead? No wonder you like Lisa if so.

Housemate have to nominate, it says so in their contract. A housemate may use a silly reason to nominate and that is fine, but when a housemate nominates because of a strong dislike of another house -mate and then leaves the DR meets the person they have just been very harsh or vindictive about and carries on with the two faced relationship they have with that person then yes I will call them two faced. And the proud owners of the two faced awards this year are, imo -
Marcus, Freddie, Bea, Sophie and you guessed it, Siavash.

Lisa was very rude towards Freddie, as was Kris and Karly, it would seem a lot of the housemates found Freddie annoying, that does not mean they had to be so nasty to him, but at least Freddie knew where he stood with Lisa,Kris and Karly, they were never two faced with him. We even have Marcus on record saying Lisa should win because she is the only genuine one in the house.

I do not like Lisa, her potty mouth is not to my liking but at least we know we are seeing the 'real' Lisa not someone contrived or coached, like Siavash and Sophie.

Christine · **Joined:** 07 Nov 01, 2:00 **Posts:** 10186

Sorry, but I disagree with that. Yes, Siavash is contrived, but I really think that Sophie is being genuine.

Also, the reason that Sophie didn't nominate, was not the for the same reason as Siavash. She was not trying to save herself. She said that she wanted to be up, because she didn't want Kris to be there at her Eviction Interview, which she knows that he definitely will be, if she leaves on Final Night, because all the housemates are there that night.

Also, these nomination results were not rigged. BB didn't know who would be nominated when Charlie (the first one to nominate) went in the Diary Room and refused to nominate. They told him there and then I think, that he would be up for eviction if he didn't nominate, because that is what he came back and told the others. I think he thought that nobody was going to nominate, so they would all be up anyway. So that part wasn't rigged.

Then obviously, as Finchy said, Rodrigo must have nominated Lisa and David (which is what I thought he would anyway) and then Lisa and David probably both voted for Siavash and then one of them must have voted for Rodrigo and the other for either Sophie or Charlie. If they had both voted for Roddy, then it would have been everyone except David and Lisa up, but because they must have voted different for the 2nd person, it has made everyone up.

So, I really cannot see how that was rigged at all. It was just bad luck for Lisa and David that they voted differently. If neither of them had nominated Rodrigo, then he wouldn't be up, but it is just the way it worked out.

Madeline

Christine wrote:

Sorry, but I disagree with that. Yes, Siavash is contrived, but I really think that Sophie is being genuine.
Sophie's pretend drunkenness/friendship is not what I would call being genuine, Christine. Contrived yes, genuine no.

Also, the reason that Sophie didn't nominate, was not the for the same reason as Siavash. She was not trying to save herself. She said that she wanted to be up, because she didn't want Kris to be there at her Eviction Interview, which she knows that he definitely will be, if she leaves on Final Night, because all the housemates are there that night.

So your saying Sophie thinks Kris is only going to be on eviction night. Not what he told her, he told her he would be there whenever she came out.

Also, these nomination results were not rigged. BB didn't know who would be nominated when Charlie (the first one to nominate) went in the Diary Room and refused to nominate. They told him there and then I think, that he would be up for eviction if he didn't nominate, because that is what he came back and told the others. I think he thought that nobody was going to nominate, so they would all be up anyway. So that part wasn't rigged.

Then obviously, as Finchy said, Rodrigo must have nominated Lisa and David (which is what I thought he would anyway) and then Lisa and David probably both voted for Siavash and then one of them must have voted for Rodrigo and the other for either Sophie or Charlie. If they had both voted for Roddy, then it would have been everyone except David and Lisa up, but because they must have voted different for the 2nd person, it has made everyone up.

So, I really cannot see how that was rigged at all. It was just bad luck for Lisa and David that they voted differently. If neither of them had nominated Rodrigo, then he wouldn't be up, but it is just the way it worked out.

I did not say the nominations were rigged I have said BB are using the situation to save certain people and put others who have not broken any rules up for nomination, if the Daly Star peice is to be believed, that is.

Bunny

So who are they "saving" by putting them all up?

This is not a vote to save, which is where you could possibly argue that a HM who would normally be evicted won't be (e.g. Lisa in the vote to save that saw Hira booted). This is a normal eviction vote and if the person is unpopular enough, they'll go, simples.

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