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John James...the collective thread
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Author:  Bluto [ 22 Jul 10, 22:42 ]
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I sort of figure that every view about him is lurking in almost every thread on the go at the moment. If there is already a thread about him (that might have been abandoned) I do apologise for starting yet another...I'm sure a moderator will glue this one on a previous one (God bless the Mods, they do a great job)

Let me kick off on how I see him.

You wake up Christmas morning and you see a large present with your name on it...The paper is ever so pretty, it makes you want it even more. So you run up to it and start pulling off the paper. All you find is a metal box with sharp corners and edges...it leaves your fingers bleeding. But you don't mind that, there has to be something wonderful inside to make the cuts worth it.

But, no...The big, sharp metal box with the pretty paper is very, very empty. What a disappointment.
Author:  Madeline [ 22 Jul 10, 23:39 ]
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I have had a look at a few of those boxes over the years Bluto, none I am happy to say with sharp corners and edges more like ones with edges that collapse at the slightest touch, they got dumped pronto.
Author:  CameronBB4 [ 23 Jul 10, 12:14 ]
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I dunno, don't you reckon John James would be ok in real life? (like them all, really - or almost all over the years) There are some I wouldn't want to share a house with for all the tea in China (can you say that any more?) but I think on the whole, most of the 118 or 128 or however many have passed through the house would be bearable, at the very least.

Or not?
Author:  Obo [ 23 Jul 10, 12:52 ]
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You're probably right Cameron, the trouble with the BB house is there's no escape from each other so whereas you might have a tiff in real life then go away from each other, bitch and moan to other mates and not see each other for a few days and by then it's all blown over, in BB they're in each others faces all the time so a minor problem escalates.

Also in real life you wouldn't choose to live with someone who got on your wick 24/7 so the situations that come up time and time again on BB just woukdnt happen in real life.

There have been some people in the oats though who just actually aren't very nice, I dont think JJ is one of them though!
Author:  public image ltd [ 23 Jul 10, 13:18 ]
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Said before that John James can be amusing when he's chilled out but irritating when instigating or prolonging arguments which are usually about nothing.

He said to Ben he didn't know what the word 'complex' meant. Don't know how thick he is, if at all, but he's not a fascinatingly complex character and I don't see him as the highest place male at the end, at this time.
Ben's a lazy git but seems to be getting more and more popular with viewers because he's unintentionally funny, though he'll have to watch his caustic comments about other housemates. Mario, though not particularly entertaining, still plays it right, seeming genuine enough. Andrew is way too nerdy. Steve has slightly redeemed a bad week with the singing task.

John James told Big Brother the other night that he likes Josie but doesn't fancy her. Maybe he should tell her that now and let her carry on as a housemate without the romance baggage on her mind.
Author:  Madeline [ 23 Jul 10, 15:47 ]
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The only true side of JJ we have seen is the unhinged side, imo.
The rest is all JJ the game player, and if you do not get to see much of the live fed have a look at the relief on JJ's face when Josie and Rachel leave the bathroom How long he can keep the charade up only time will tell.
Author:  Christine [ 23 Jul 10, 20:29 ]
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I wouldn't have said that was a look of relief Madeline.

I actually like JJ. I think he makes a very loyal friend. I also don't believe that he is game playing. I think he is just being himself. Yes, he may be a bit of a spoilt Mummy's boy and he does drag things on a bit and go on about things a lot, but there have been far far worse housemates than him.

I think there is a possibility of him being there at the end, but he will probably be nominated a few times, so it really depends on who he is up against.
Author:  Madeline [ 23 Jul 10, 21:15 ]
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What did you make of his expression then Christine? because as I said even the camera person made sure it was caught it.
I also think he is not a loyal friend because a loyal friend would not lead you the garden path up - he is using Josie, imo, as much as she is using him, she because she wants the romance, he because he wants to win and is using her to help him get to the winning post.
Author:  Christine [ 23 Jul 10, 21:31 ]
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I think at one point he looks embarrassed, then as though he doesn't really know what to make of it all.

He was very loyal to Keevee I thought, and pointed out to Keeley that she wasn't bitching and made a point of standing up for her.

I don't think he is using Josie. I think he has got himself into a situation that he now doesn't really know how to get out of. Right at the beginning he befriended Josie and told her that he doesn't go for the really glamorous girls - it was more about personality for him and they started flirting with each other. During that time, Josie's feelings for him got stronger, but he realised that although he does really like her, it is more as a sister than a girlfriend. As he said, he did fancy her at the start but not now.
Author:  Madeline [ 23 Jul 10, 21:53 ]
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[quote="Christine"]I think at one point he looks embarrassed, then as though he doesn't really know what to make of it all.[quote]

But why would he feel embarrassed Christine? they share a bed and he does know what to make of it all, that is why imo he looked so relieved when Josie and Rachel left the bathroom, like he was getting a breather.

[quote]He was very loyal to Keevee I thought, and pointed out to Keeley that she wasn't bitching and made a point of standing up for her.[quote]
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The reason he was loyal to Caoimhe was because there was a real connection between them - but he soon let himself down with all the pretend shock at what Josie was saying about Caoimhe, he knew she was talking shite but decided to go along with it so he can remain close to the mother ship.
Author:  Madeline [ 24 Jul 10, 11:08 ]
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Last night I saw on the live feed how comfortable John James is in his own skin. The prize for Mr Metro sexuality Australia 2010 goes to him.
Mario, the man who thinks it is okay to man handle other men and women when he feels randy mauled John James in the bed he was in with Josie. He even tried to get Josie and John James feel his *****, when I was watching I thought, In BB6 Craig was crucified for just lusting after Anthony, yet here we are in BB11 and we have a group of metro sexual men all but getting it on and there is not a word said about it. Funny old world isn't it. :-?
Author:  public image ltd [ 24 Jul 10, 17:22 ]
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I don't know, but Davina seems obsessed with Josie and John James being the 'story' this year, and all the z-list magazine hype that follows.

Is John James as thick as he looks and sounds?
Don't know, but is Josie the thick west country bumpkin she portrays? Don't know.

Anyway, watched last night's show today; the Glee thing was actually quite entertaining.
Well done to Corin and Andrew for actually going for it when they sang for the fans. Corin came across very well as a person who is just trying to enjoy the BB experience.
Author:  Bluto [ 25 Jul 10, 1:24 ]
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Madeline wrote:
I have had a look at a few of those boxes over the years Bluto, none I am happy to say with sharp corners and edges more like ones with edges that collapse at the slightest touch, they got dumped pronto.



Ah, good on you...but i always get the female kind of him :D
Author:  Madeline [ 25 Jul 10, 14:17 ]
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All that glitters is not gold Bluto so stop choosing the shiny wrapped ones and go for the one that looks well made and long lasting, you will be happier in the end. {@}
Author:  Madeline [ 25 Jul 10, 14:47 ]
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I do not find J James attractive, he is too skinny, boney and walks like an old man with very bad body posture and the nasally sound he has would turn my stomach.
How the housemates think he looks like Davd Beckham is beyond me - he who doesn't need his ego stroked has them all pumping him up. He is also after a hook up with Sophie Reed when he gets out of the house, his agent is probable arranging dates for him right now.
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