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But don't forget, everyone who gets the chance to sing for the judges has already been auditioned and marked down as potential laughing stock fodder for our 'amusement'. They don't line up for 7 hours & get the chance to sing in front of them first off, so when you see all those hopeless cases (like the Eye of the Tiger nutter, how mad was he? ) it's all been carefully arranged beforehand.

Oh and there was another cute blond (Irish) guy who sang a Westlife song, his clip was shown very briefly but he got through, he'll get into the last 10 I'm sure, he narrowly missed getting into D Side (?)

I caught a bit of "Pop Idol Extra", on saturday night.
I wish i hadn't.
Kate Thornton, was "interviewing", the mad "eye of the tiger bloke".
She was basically, humouring and extracting the urine out of the bloke.
Now, he clearly, isn't dealing with a full deck.For her to get a cheap laugh, out of this nutter, in that way, was, unforgiveable.

I think Fame Academy is better cos well last year they get to show all their talents like dancing and song writing and performing and stuff instead of just standing there with a microphone. Except this year I don't like it as much. They NEED to show the tues and thurs shows

well yes i agree with you unfortunately gareth has been with cowells 19 cmpany and has only put out some ghastly cover versions, will too is with 19 and i really am very sceptical at the way they are both being profiled they would both do far better out of that stable and into another company that saw they worth and promoted them for what they are worth, darius to my mind was the winner by not being offered a contract determinedly carried on and chose one for himself leaving himself free to choose his material unlike the other two who are spoonfed and have perform what they are told, i can see thst their careers could be limited as cowell has no real interest except for his % if that drops so do the artists . any other company would be glad to have such talent on there books, cowell will cast them off like his old girl friends when the mood takes him. however for now i will continue to buy anything will produces as his fabulous voice is a godsend and a breath of fresh air in to days scene

p.s adrian dont you think that gareth and will are being given a low profile at the moment because pop idol 2 is underway and cowell is on his next project and unconcerned at the fate of last years winners. hope im wrong

......good point Alix
.....The other point to make, is, once Simon Cowell, "makes" an act, and after their initial success, he doesn't seem to know where to take them next....a little short-sighted.But to his credit, he admits, he's only in it for the money- not the music.

He was Scottish wasn't he?

quite right adrian cowell is a self confessed opinionated money grubbing individual, whos lost interest in the pair now and is off to the next % earner that being pop idol 2 i doubt they will find another pair quite so talented, abeit that they have different styles both are or could be the best in their field given the right management and backing i wonder how long they have to stay in the wilderness of the cowell stable, beffore they can break loose and unfortunately it may be to late given the fickleness of the industry

Did anyone see the programme about Simon Cowell on ITV1 on Saturday?

both programmes are wrong is killing the industry and as I work in dance and meet loads of talented kids singing writing playing and stuff see all the time think the profile of gareth and will is quiet at the moment cos of the hectic pace they have had in last 18 months and is the quiet before they are off promoting their new albumns in the autumn will doesnt work with cowell is signed by the management company but isnt just cowell fuller deals with will more than cowell he handles gareth more Darius was offered contract with 19 but turned it down he was fortunate of the three he is the one allowed to do his thing

Not him (was he wearing blush make up? ) No another guy, you only saw him very briefly

Dunno about blush.... don't think so This one had bought new t-shirt, new jeans, new shoes, sang FWOW and fell to his knees when Cowell told him he was thru. After he left the room Cowell said... to no-one in particular.... "top 10" to which they all agreed.

meant him, but there was also another guy

can't think of another one.....

Boy oh boy oh boy do I remember that blond guy. . As for the guy that sang 'Eye Of The Tiger, on the strength of that performance he has just been given a contract to do a telly commecial ! Good luck to him !