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Adrian - I agree with everything Mads has said (except when she slates Science)

Eugene in general terms is a "nice guy", but he does had a snide/nasty side to him. BB doesn't see fit to show his bad points, preferring instead to play up the lonely geek aspect (or defending any bitching he does on BBLB)

he is by no means the worst in house for this, but the fact remains he is guilty of doing/saying things other HMs are critcised for

I'd rather Kinga win then him, as beneath all that brazeness is a nice girl

still think Anthony is the favourite, regardless of what bookie are currently saying. I wouldn't mind Makosi winning, just the p*** people off

Is this side of Eugene the same as the one Cameron was supposed to have. You know, the one we never saw?

If someone went on about the state of my sex life I'd call them a stupid bitch as well.

...we all have our crosses to bear- it's no hanging matter.

do you and Mads not get on then

so would I

I'm referring to his bitching sessions with Derek, which weren't as vicious as Makosi/Kemal/Vanessa's but still bitchy

I'm referring to his cyanide cigarette suggestion

I'm referring to his "let's hope Science loses his voice, so we can torment him" comment

I'm referring to his "I hope Science hits someone, so he can get chucked out"

stuff like that makes it hard for me to buying "Eugene's a nice harmless guy" argument

like I said above he's by no means the worst in the house, but he isn't a saint

PS - I wasn't one of those who imagined some nasty trait about Cameron. I only had a problem/issue with his later reaction to Lisa (who was barmy)

w/o taking it off message-my problem with Cameron was that he was as boring as a fence post-his imagined nasty side was never convincing and were some of his more interesting incidents.I think they were seized on by people who wanted to pick at his christian beliefs.

Just like people (not saying anyone here, just people in general) are obsessed with Eugene being a virgin?

What is the problem with that anyway. People were amazed I was still a virgin at 21 (and 6 months). I still wish I was actually, I hope the 'love' Eugene finds isn't a deluded cocaine addict who feels the need to lie about loving him, like the person I was with did to me.

perhaps they meant it when they said it.

Huh, what are you talking about?

I know my ex said it, I chose to pretend he was lying though because it makes life easier since he's a deluded cocaine addict.

Eugene should not win - he always talks about himself and his life and is very boring. I can't remember who said it now, but someone said that he always manages to steer conversations back to himself all the while.

Yes, I would agree with that.

Loads of people do that though. The old wrinkley-type in my office did it just 5 minutes ago. In fact she just says the same thing every day about her husband and how he may or maynot be screwing around with a woman half his age.

I doubt he is, because I've seen her husband and I'm close to the age of the 'other woman' and I definitely wouldn't! I like older men as well. It takes all sorts I suppose.

It's hardly a crime though, is it? Very boring maybe, but hardly bitching about your 'best friend' before going and telling that person how much you love them.

It's called being selfish though.

It's not selfish to pretend you think you're pregnant and tell half you housemates, all the viewers of Big Brother and fail to tell the lad who has made you not-pregnant?

they all talk about themselves.

If self-obsession is your criteria, for not winning, the show and entire franchise is stuffed.