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I don't like any of the housemates, to be honest, Pikey.

And to be fair - it was Eugene himself who brought up the question of whether what he had done was morally wrong.

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(Eugene genuinely believed that he would be booted out if he took the money).

This is what some people need to realise. It would make all the difference to their thinking - some of them at least.

Many would rather take that sum and flee those three remaining - well one in particular - than stay in with nothing except the possibility of winning the full amount.

Good on 'im.


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By the same token..if Ant had the offer to win but lose the money, I am confident he wouldn't take the money.

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It doesn't change my thinking at all, really.

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Yes I agree cc, I'm pretty sure that's the case.

I'm also pretty sure that if Eugene had known he wouldn't be evicted, he wouldn't have taken the money.

But 'what ifs' are rarely useful.


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TG!!!!Someone else has taken my point!!!!!!!!!!!!!1Thank you Cameron...


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What annoys me is that yes, it's fair to Eugene, more than fair, he gets half the money that he doesn't deserve.

He doesn't deserve a single penny from his time in that house, he has been a TERRIBLE HM. He should never have entered, he has brought very little to the house. If a plumber had come in during week 5, for an hour to fix the showers, then they would be more deserving because they would have actually contributed something!

If BB had said to Eugene, "you can choose to split the prize so that 1st and 2nd place in the vote each get £50k, or each of you now gets £20k", then perhaps that is fair.

What irks me is that Eugene took the money and hoped to run. He knows full well he doesn't deserve to win. I wish the voting public would too.

I would think it fair now if BB calls all HMs (except Eugene) into the DR tomorrow , before the first eviction and asks them would they now like to take Eugene's £50k and leave immediately?

And no Bunny, I am not being sanctimonious, morality nned have no connection to religion. A person's value code can exist independently of any believe in deities. It might be argued that people who don't believe in an after-life are more sincere because they do not believe their actions will be rewarded. Or punished! Yipee!!!

I am not a Christian, you hot cross Bunny. I am not religious at all. But I am very moral (based upon my own personalised ideas of what is 'wrong' and 'right'). If you'd read what I said I was not claiming my superiority to anyone, only that I am different, and that I think Eugene is wrong. He's a stinker. That doesn't make me sanctimonious. Look up the definition of the word.

People do wrong things all the time, doesn't make me better than them. Lord knows, (and being non-religious, he may not exist) I've done many, many wrong things.

Starting this stupid thread was one of them! ;) ::lol::

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Are we bovvered tho??


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I agree that Eugene has been a dreadful housemate. There is very little point to his presence there.

I think he was dismayed that he *couldn't* take the money and run. He didn't like having to face the others one bit.

But he's got on terms with his conscience now, and is hoping for the other 50 grand.

Fair play if he deludes people into voting for him.

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What irks me is that Eugene took the money and hoped to run.

To tell you the truth, I don't think that's accurate, Alan.

I don't think he hoped to run, I honestly think that he genuinely thought the option of taking the money meant he was to be evicted - that's why he was upset after he'd come back in and spoken to the others about it.


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Are we bovvered tho??


To be honest, I'm not really bothered. But an argy-bargy can be fun.

As Finchy said, Ant will waste his money on magic beans.

And as I said, Eugene will waste his on radio equipment.

I'm just glad I didn't vote. Not once all series, or last or the year before.

The best of BB is always circa week 2 - week 8. Give or take.

I guess so long as the HMs perform like good monkeys, they will have future careers. As Jade becoming the first millionaire HM proved.

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What irks me is that Eugene took the money and hoped to run.

To tell you the truth, I don't think that's accurate, Alan.

I don't think he hoped to run, I honestly think that he genuinely thought the option of taking the money meant he was to be evicted - that's why he was upset after he'd come back in and spoken to the others about it.


I agree Cameron...have watched the footage several times(sad bitch alert yeah!!)....
Listen to what he said...."I'll take the money and go"


What could be clearer?


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What irks me is that Eugene took the money and hoped to run.

To tell you the truth, I don't think that's accurate, Alan.

I don't think he hoped to run, I honestly think that he genuinely thought the option of taking the money meant he was to be evicted - that's why he was upset after he'd come back in and spoken to the others about it.


That's what I meant Cameron. He believed his decision would also include eviction if he accepted the dosh.

And I agree with you if he'd known that the truth, that he would actually have to face his HMs whatever his decision, then he would have decided to decline the money.

Where we differ is that I am sneering at his decision and you are not. I think he is both cowardly and greedy. Although most viewers think he is neither, and that is also the view of his fellow HMs. Or so they say. But they cannot say otherwise because they themselves have had the honesty to confess they would have done the same.

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Ok alan. Marginally different approach resulting in quite a difference of opinion but I can see where you're coming from and I do understand your point of view.

I don't claim to know Eugene all that well, but at times like this it would perhaps be easier if I didn't know him AT ALL and then I could let none of what I do know influence what I'm thinking about what I watch.


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