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Yeah, let's all go back to the wonderful days of the British Empire when it was perfectly legal to rape, murder and persecute natives in their own country.

I'm amazed at some of the views expressed on this forum. What on earth has how someone dresses, or got a beard got to do with whether they could be a terrorist or not? You may as well say anyone with an Irish accent is holding a bomb.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want this country run by Muslims (or any particular religious group for that matter). Anyone coming to live here should respect the laws of the country in which they are now resident - the same rule would apply the other way. My point was about putting the fear of death due to terrorism into perspective, as well as pin-pointing the cause in the increase of terrorist threats. How come countries like Portugal or Finland or Ireland are not targetted?

I don't think we should be in Iraq. People will be dying there whether we're there or not. There's only one reason Bush/Blair are there: economics (namely oil and reconstruction licences). I lost a friend to a terrorist bomb that ripped through a pub, I know friends of mine suffering psychologically having returned from service in the Gulf. They joined the army to defend the UK, not economic policy. And as Vagabond puts it, our governments want us to be fearful, so that we support their policies, which also include a curbing of basic rights in the name of fighting terrorism.

One final point: I'd rather swap a thousand hard-working foreigners for a thousand home-grown citizens too lazy to get off their back sides.

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Amazing!

I'd rather die than have some Taliban facist nutter, telling me that I have too pray so many times a day, grow a beard, not be able to look at a woman. Not be able to have a pint of lager, or do anything that means any king of enjoyment or pleasure. The Nazis didn't and couldn't so some bloody religous zelot isn't going to neither in my opinion. I'm hateing religion, more and more of any kind we might actually see some piece in this world, if evil nutters didn't go around saying were better than you. If some of you haven't the guts to stand up to them, that's your problem. To be honest I have got a problem with some religions saying how we should dress and behave, it isn't there ffing business too. I'm sure Muslims with common sense, who don't like to bossed around too in a free country will see were I'm coming from Vagabond.

Steve_o - I was involved in several campaigns against the Taliban treatment of women in Afghanistan. I do not like such extremist behaviour. I simply do NOT see how your comments are even relevant to the issue of the airport disruption. The point I was making was that how people choose to dress (which includes a decision to adhere to traditional religious attire) has nothing to do with supporting acts of terrorism. And good luck to you standing up to terrorists. The point is - terrorists don't wear uniforms like the Nazis, and are a bit less predictable in their methods.

Are you serious about thinking of this country as a *free country*? Nobody is free any more - because of the threat of terrorism, the power thirst of governments, and corporations. Money rules the world - we might as well get used to it.

Well, that's the first I've read anywhere of anyone's fear that we're about to be invaded by an army of Talebans/Islamic rebels who want to takeover Britain. I don't think that's anywhere near being realistic. I thought the general fear was the threat of terrorism - but this is just bizarre!

The terrorists' aims are mainly against Western imperialism (ie. stop nicking our oil), leave the Palestinians alone, and stop interfering in our politics. They make a point about this through acts of terrorism. Who said they had plans to invade Britain??

If we should be afraid of any invasion it should be the invasion of our privacy and freedom that the current government has brought about. Terrorism is just being used as an excuse for monitoring the movements of every individual. I think we should be more worried about that than some weirdy beardy bloke telling us we can't have a pint.

I so agree, tastyfish. It's got to the stage where even the fact that we exercise our free speech on an internet forum can get us *monitored*. We are monitored all the time as individuals - even if only by store loyalty cards, cameras in the streets, credit card usage, internet/text messages/phonecalls, etc. And when the identity cards and travel restrictions REALLY kick in, an even tighter rein will be kept on us.

And I don't know how any British person can claim, with a straight face, that WE are the ones who are in danger of being invaded by Islamic fundamentalists. The British have a very long history of being the invaders. We're still at it today. So I think we shouldn't be surprised if people start to stand up against it. I abhor terrorism, whether it is carried out by the state, or by religious fanatics. Murder is just wrong.

And to think we used to be concerned by stories of widespread public surveillance in the old Eastern bloc, along the lines of 1984. Well, I think we're already way beyond that. I just think Labour are doing their utmost to destroy all the fun out of life. If they could introduce a tax on laughter they would. All in the name of preventing terrorism, of course. It would be for our own safety.

It's the Nanny state that gets to me. And risk assessments for every little thing. GRRRR

I did East German literature as an option at university, and we had to work hard to detect the implied criticism of the communist state - the authors had to be VERY careful what they wrote. Tastyfish- you're right about the widespread public surveillance here. And techology has made it all the easier to conceal.

Going back to the original theme of this thread...



ParanoidBritain.com

if they had funny accents, then they probably were from Bolton. You never watch Phoenix Nights?

yes, in a way my spiel was kinda making fun of that sort of observation
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The people got the government they deserve. No point complaining about it, the general populace are stupid and deserve nothing less than a sleazy spin filled leadership that is devoid of ideas and that is obsessed with nannying.

Its that simple.
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Calrissian: 22/8/2006

Hey, if we're gonna live in a nanny state, I wish she'd be PM!

Hehe - been away for a week, so I missed this...

What were that couple like??!!!

What's this about supernanny? You got a thing for her??

Yeah, I suppose I have, but I can't say what (this being a family forum, lol)