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The Sun has it as Stu v Rachel
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sh ... 547165.ece

Blimey, I said yesterday that Rachel may have been concerned after her cake task decision because she thought she would be nominated.

Rachel's still an unknown quantity because she is determined to be nice throughout her stay - nothing wrong with that - but how she got on BB9 via Imogen from BB7 & the fact that she's a teacher who doesn't know how many days there are in the year or knows what the word 'peril' means worries me.
I do wonder if Rachel is being totally honest. I mean, she is an acting lovey who follows the British film world very closely.

Rachel is favourite to win the whole thing at the moment - something strong Lisa may raise an eyebrow to, or even Darnell if he doesn't go barmy.

As for Stuart, he totally changed after 'spitgate' when Phil Edgar-Jones told him in the diary room that he had been aggressive to Rex.
Stuart walked into the house bouncing on his heels & winking at people. As Lisa's nominations show, he's been a drip since, always begging the viewers for sympathy because he 'dotes' on his daughter - er!, intelligent people expect him to!
We all saw the mother of his daughter say in the NOTW that he ain't much cop as a daddy - too obsessed with body building, etc.

Stuart's totally paranoid about being liked by the viewers but his crowning glory was last week when he said being on BB was the only selfish thing he's done in his life - who does he think he is, Jesus Christ?
Vote him out.

Aah, my nomination predictions were pretty close again then. People on other forums should remember that just because Rex is annoying them, that doesn't mean the HMs will nominate him
Currently Stuart is favourite to go and a poll on the Sun website has him with 57%. Hopefully that'll increase during the week.

Right enough. And it works the other way too of course. Just because people here and there liked Jon it didn't mean that the housemates stopped nominating him lol!

Good ol' Jon.

It will be an interesting one, as demographically who will vote to save Rachel other than the ones who like the look of Stu (cant be his personality they would like).

Will be entertaining if Rachel stays as currently the others think Stu liked by the public, it certainly will wobble Rex`s world view.

Stuart is a sure gonna then I reckon. I don't like the fact that the others will then think that the public want to see wallflower housemates who sit on the fence, because if they all change to be like that, it will be very boring.

Rachel is bound to have loads of supporters, because I would think that all of Wales will be behind her and also the DS forum members and as Grace Dent is rooting for her on BBLB, that will also help to sway a lot of their viewers votes, so Rachel could actually win with a huge majority, especially as she has been a bit more vocal since being HOH.

I was hoping there would be several up and then be a double eviction.

Fair enough, I await to see the next few days with the olympic task.
But Davina's excruciatingly embarrassing comments about Dale being the 'ideal' housemate don't ring true.
The misconception about the so-called likelihood of a so-called 'hunk' winning BB just isn't true - see the the history.

I mean, who would vote for...
Exactly.

I think Rachel will have supporters amongst 'ordinary' viewers who feel the girl deserves credit for behaving with dignity in the face of adversity.

There was a time when I would have thought that yes, coming from Wales, or Scotland, or Ireland would guarantee a lot of votes from those areas, but nowadays, most people don't watch BB, so I'm not there's any advantage in being 'regional' anymore. Avid viewers pick their own favourites, based on how the HMs have behaved.

As regards Grace Dent - and other columnists. I think this works in the same way as posts on forums. I doubt if many voters have ever been swayed by reading forum posts. I believe we form our own conclusions, and then gravitate towards people who share our views. I've enjoyed reading Grace's columns over the years, and this year I'm pleased that she is not fond of Rex. But if she was - if she was saying 'Rex is bringing life and interest to the show, so I think he deserves to win', there's no way I'd change my opinion.

By the way, I think there's more to Rachel, than just the fact that she's had to endure an onslaught from Rex, and others. If that's all there was to her, sure, I'd feel sorry for her, but I wouldn't necessarily want to see her emerge as winner. A kind of winner by default.

If there was no Rex in the house, I'd still be pleased if Rachel won, because she's maintained good humour throughout her stay in the house. Sometimes she's got upset, but has mostly hidden that from the other HMs. She has been a good sport in the tasks, but most importantly - she has been kind and pleasant to the other HMs.

It would be no harm, in my opinion, if a person who was pleasant, kind, and lacking in hysterics won.

I agree that Rachel is a really nice person, but we hardly saw her at all in the early days. She wouldn't voice an opinion and just sat on the fence all the while. Being a member of a forum, she is obviously aware of what not to do. Her VT was obviously over hyped to get her in the house and then when in there, she was trying really hard to keep in the background and not upset anyone. I just hope that people don't forget her early days.

I just don't think that someone should win just for being nice, because the show would not be very entertaining if the house was full of Rachels and it sends out the wrong message to prospective housemates. If it was a competition to find the nicest person, then yes, I think she should win, but it is an entertainment programme and their job is to entertain us, not be all nicey, nicey all the while, too scared to voice any opinions etc.

She certainly ticks all the other boxes, but falls short in the entertaining one as far as I am concerned.

I've never thought Rachel was 'boring' - far from it - her personality brought something to BB9 despite what Rex thought.

However, she needs to explain some very thick comments she made publicly - especially when she says she teaches children.

Yes, I understand that.

I like shows to be entertaining. I think shorter 'reality shows' like Hell's Kitchen or even I'm a Celebrity G.M.O.O.H. have a real advantage, because they last a few weeks, as opposed to a few months, and seem more about people mastering new skills/challenges, rather than how people get on locked up in a house for a summer.

But I have a soft spot for B.B., it's been part of my summer since the first series.

I remember when lots of people in my work would chat about BB - now, it's a rare person who watches. People say 'how can you watch that rubbish?' And the perception amongst 'people in general' is that BB is a show full of attention-seeking wannabes who'll do anything for media coverage, or thick people who can't string a sentence together, but who are very good at falling out of nightclubs, or nasty people who don't give a damn about how they treat others.

Thankfully, we can, of course, point to HMs who have not conformed to those unfortunate stereotypes, but it'd be really nice to be able to say 'well, look at the person who won it this year, people voted for them, and they weren't obnoxious'.

Makes you wonder what next year has in store for us.

Well, Davina often likens an eviction night to 'panto', and I was just thinking there...in classic fairytales ...and pantomimes, the central 'good' character is often not that endertaining.

Cinderalla's tale would be dull with the Ugly Sisters...ditto Little Red Riding Hood, without the Wolf. Even many movies are based on an 'average but nice' person (albeit with film star looks) overcoming adversity.

BB would be very dull if everyone in the house was similar. But while 100K is a very nice prize, there's plenty of other money to be made for HMs who don't win.

Therefore I don't think it's detrimental to the show (which is finishing next year anyway, right?) to have a winner who isn't necessarily the biggest character in the house.

They have it for two years yet, so most likely a 'standard' approach this year and something out of the ordinary for 2010.

I wouldnt have said Anthony Hutton was a particularly 'strong' character...he even had trouble fending off Craig!