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PostPosted: 29 Oct 08, 17:08 
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Ross and Brand Pulled From Schedules


Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand are to be suspended and all their shows taken off air until the BBC has investigated their prank calls made on Radio 2, the Corporation said today.

It follows a series of calls made by the pair to actor Andrew Sachs on Brand's Saturday night programme.

Sachs, 78, said he was "not surprised" by the BBC's suspension of the pair, but would not be reporting the matter to police.

"I am not going to take it anywhere. I'm not out for revenge," he said.

The calls were broadcast as part of Russell Brand's pre-recorded show on 18 October.

During the calls, Ross swore and said Brand had slept with Sachs' granddaughter.

More than 18,000 people have complained to the BBC.

Announcing the suspensions in a statement, BBC director general Mark Thompson said he would be returning from a holiday and would "in the coming days, announce what action we will take".

"Since Sunday, I have been in regular contact with the senior executives I tasked with handling this issue," he said.

"In the meantime, I have decided that it is not appropriate for either Russell Brand or Jonathan Ross to continue broadcasting on the BBC until I have seen the full report of the actions of all concerned.

"This gross lapse of taste by the performers and the production team has angered licence payers."

He added his "own personal and unreserved apology to Andrew Sachs, his family and to licence fee payers for the completely unacceptable broadcast".

BBC One show Friday Night with Jonathan Ross was due to have been filmed at BBC Television Centre, west London, later today

Guests on the show were to have been Sir David Attenborough, comedian Frank Skinner, US teen singer Miley Cyrus and band The Killers. The BBC said people with tickets to be in the audience should not attend.

Ross's Saturday morning radio show, as well as Brand's Saturday night radio show, have also been pulled from Radio 2's schedules.

Click here for full text of Mark Thompson's statement

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BBC Under Pressure To Sack Presenters


Increasing pressure is being put on the BBC to sack Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross following their prank calls made to actor Andrew Sachs.

His granddaughter Georgina Baillie told a newspaper the pair "should at least pay for what they've done with their jobs".

Tory MP Nigel Evans said he would choose to end the pair's contracts.

"The least that should happen is that they should be suspended, pending the outcome of the inquiry by Ofcom and the BBC Trust," he said.

Brand and Ross made a series of prank calls made to Sachs, 78, famous for his part in Fawlty Towers. The calls were broadcast on Radio 2 as part of a pre-recorded show on October 18.

During the calls, Ross revealed that Brand had slept with Sachs' granddaughter.

Miss Baillie said: "What's funny about humiliating a lovely old man who has never harmed anyone in his life? My grandfather is really upset and says he wants the whole situation to end.

"I will be speaking to him to ask whether we should complain to the police and we'll be making the decision as a family."

She added: "They (Brand and Ross) should at least pay for what they've done with their jobs."

The aspiring model also said that the Radio 2 bosses who allowed the prank to be broadcast should also go.

Miss Baillie said she felt "totally and utterly exposed and betrayed" by the calls and has threatened that she could make an official complaint to police but admitted she had slept with Brand.

Prime Minister Gordon Brown said: "This is clearly inappropriate and unacceptable behaviour, as is now widely recognised. Ofcom have said they will investigate the matter and it is for the BBC, the BBC Trust and Ofcom to take any appropriate action."

Other politicians from across the spectrum also waded into the row calling for BBC director-general Mark Thompson to act and the presenters to be sacked.
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 Post subject: Re: Russell & Jonathan Ross's obscene phone calls
PostPosted: 29 Oct 08, 17:31 
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Janet Street-Porter: Men like Russell Brand thrive in the macho culture of the airwaves







What was it precisely about Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross's telephone call to Andrew Sachs that annoyed so many people? Thousands of people have voiced their displeasure on blogs and websites – the vast majority of them having surely never even heard the original broadcast on Radio 2.

When the PM programme on Radio 4 played a short burst of the offending incident, they were inundated with messages from enraged listeners incredulous that such offensive behaviour was pre-recorded and then transmitted. Is it about the language – the fact that the f-word was used? Or is it about a boorish trick – leaving impudent messages about sex on someone's answer phone? Or are we appalled because Andrew Sachs is a much-loved actor of a certain age?

Certainly, the subsequent apology broadcast by Russell Brand was risible, demonstrating that his producer is not up to the job. Inevitably, investigations have now been launched by the BBC and Ofcom, but will they prevent this kind of thing happening again? In my extensive experience, this incident isn't isolated, but indicative of a change in our culture.

I admit, I've used bad language regularly on television. When the BBC broadcast a fly-on-the-wall documentary about my stressful time running Live TV a decade ago, it contained more bleeps in an hour than any documentary previously aired on BBC2. But they were bleeps, and there weren't many complaints.

Now, when we reach the 9pm watershed, an announcer will almost invariably tell viewers (on all channels): "The following programme contains strong language". Indeed, the only programmes without a warning are probably about the life of polar bears or butterflies. Bleeping is largely a thing of the past, unless you're using the c-word.

Last year I presented The F Word on Channel 4 with Gordon Ramsay, another person who doesn't mince words. It was hugely popular with young people. They loved the combative element. At Las Vegas airport on Monday, scores of British teenagers came up to me to ask about my veal calves and what Gordon is really like. Even in Los Angeles, people watch the show on the Food channel and asked me about it in shops and restaurants.

Gordon is a huge star and people accept his direct language as part of his persona. Jamie Oliver's recent C4 series, where he tried to teach the underclass of Rotherham to cook, attracted criticism about his regular use of the f word. A lot of his older fans didn't like it at all. But I don't think the high level of anger over Ross and Brand is about language at all.

There is a real appetite in television and on the radio, to introduce confrontational situations – what the media business calls "jeopardy" – into factual and entertainment programmes. I am frequently asked to lose my rag and say what I really think – and the viewers like it.

I trust my producers and editors to err on the side of what is acceptable when they edit, and they do. Getting Ross and Brand to ring up Andrew Sachs was part of this trend to flirt with dangerous situations, but when Mr Sachs didn't pick up his phone, their unnecessarily crude comments should have been edited out straightaway.

Telly and radio has become increasingly bloke-ish, and the incident with Andrew Sachs is about that. A few years ago I took part in Nine out of 10 Cats with Jimmy Carr. I was the only woman on that show. During the recording my fellow panellists were more and more lewd (a lot would be edited out for broadcast and was only for the live audience's entertainment) and I felt increasingly uncomfortable.

When a gay man I knew was mentioned, my fellow panellist made a joke about anal sex, at which point I nearly burst into tears and asked to leave. Everyone was told to behave and the recording completed with me saying little. Incredibly, they asked me on the show again, but I declined.

Plenty of television shows reflect male camaraderie – from Never Mind the Buzzcocks to Not the Nine O'Clock News to Jonathan Ross's Friday night chat show, where testosterone levels soar. Most post-9pm entertainment is male dominated with a male agenda.

Female broadcasters don't sit around talking about sex like these guys get away with. Even on a cheeky show like Loose Women, there are definite boundaries. Recently it apologised for Joan Rivers's language. As a BBC executive I had a row with the writer Andrew Davies over a line in a post-9pm sitcom he'd written, in which a female character was referred to as "on the blob". Andrew really couldn't see what I found offensive.

Brand and Ross were reflecting this attitude. Senior executives should have junked the item, and insisted the apology was appropriate. Fines, sackings and investigations can't alter a culture.
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 Post subject: Re: Russell & Jonathan Ross's obscene phone calls
PostPosted: 29 Oct 08, 18:27 
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Yes, I'd read Janet S-P's article - made me all nostalgic for the days when she was on I.A.C.G.M.O.O.H. :oops:

I agree with much of what she says. Certainly, in my eyes, Jamie Oliver is a million miles above the other pair. Loved his Ministry of Food - which could perhaps have been subtitled 'The rebirth of Natasha - see what happens when you give someone a chance?'.

One thing that stands out a mile for me, in all this business - Andrew Sachs saying 'I'm not out for revenge'. A real gentleman, it seems. ()^

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I have just clicked the URL in your signature gerbilgranny. Good idea! ()^


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 Post subject: Re: Russell & Jonathan Ross's obscene phone calls
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On a bit of a tangent...what's the definition of being old? Referring to Andrew Sachs as 'Leonard Sachs'. :oops: :oops: (Down at the Old Bull and Bush, indeed)

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 Post subject: Re: Russell & Jonathan Ross's obscene phone calls
PostPosted: 29 Oct 08, 20:02 
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Russell Brand has now resigned from the BBC - this is the main headline on Sky TV News. Weird that it should be so - but hey, I guess the viewers determine what's the most important news. ${

Stranger and stranger - the footage of Russell making his statement being played on Sky, as if on a loop - if Osama Bin Laden had made a statement, I wonder would it have got as much publicity. I wonder if there's a little irony in Russell saying he only did the show to make people laugh, and be happy, and now that obviously it's made people unhappy, he should stop. Irony, given that the actual number of complaints made following the airing of the show was 2. Not so much the listeners, but those who learned about the story via the Daily Mail and other sources, who complained.

Anyway, what about the producers, who decided to air this PRE-RECORDED segment? :eek:

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 Post subject: Re: Russell & Jonathan Ross's obscene phone calls
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Yes it's the producers fault for airing it.

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RUSSELL Brand tonight quit his BBC Radio show in the wake of the huge controversy over calls made to Fawlty Towers actor Andrew Sachs.

Earlier the star and Jonathan Ross had been suspended by the BBC .

BBC Director-General Mark Thompson said today it was “not appropriate" for either of them to broadcast until a full investigation had been completed, but Brand subsequently quit at 5.30pm.

Former heroin addict Brand has presented his Radio 2 show since November 2006 and was thought to be paid more than £200,000 a year by the BBC.

Brand said in a statement that he took “complete responsibility” for the incident and that he got “caught up in the moment”.

His decision came as the BBC received 18,000 complaints over the furore.

Brand said: "I have apologised to Andrew Sachs for the rude messages I left on October 18 and he has graciously accepted. As I only do the radio show to make people laugh I’ve decided that given the subsequent coverage I will stop doing the show.

"I’ve loved working for the BBC. I got a bit caught up in the moment and forgot that at the core of the rude comments and silly songs were the real feelings of a beloved and brilliant comic actor and a very sweet and big hearted young woman.

"Apologies are also owed to the loyal listeners of the show who enjoyed its shambolic spirit and anarchy and will be upset that it cannot continue.

"I take complete responsibility and offer nothing but love and contrition and I hope that now Jonathan and the BBC will endure less forensic wrath."

Ross also issued a statement in which he apologised unreservedly.

He said: "It was a stupid error of judgment on my part, and I offer a full apology.

"I am deeply sorry and greatly regret the upset and distress that my juvenile and thoughtless remarks on the Russell Brand show have caused.

"I have not issued a statement previously because it was my intention and desire to offer an apology to all those offended on my Friday night programme."

Corporation boss Thompson said: “I would like to add my own personal and unreserved apology to Andrew Sachs, his family and to licence fee payers for the completely unacceptable broadcast on BBC Radio 2.

“BBC audiences accept that, in comedy, performers attempt to push the line of taste. However, this is not a marginal case.

“It is clear from the views expressed by the public that this broadcast has caused severe offence and I share that view.

“The investigation that I instructed Tim Davie to conduct is nearing completion, and I am returning to London to review the findings and, in the coming days, announce what action we will take.

“In the meantime, I have decided that it is not appropriate for either Russell Brand or Jonathan Ross to continue broadcasting on the BBC until I have seen the full report of the actions of all concerned."

Actor Andrew Sachs today said he was “not surprised” Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand had been suspended by the BBC over their prank calls to him.

He said the pair had got it “badly wrong” and made a “poor team”, but he was not seeking revenge.

“I’m very sorry it happened,” he said. “How can grown-up, mature people do it? It’s a very poor team, the two of them, if that’s the result of it.”

The scandal erupted when Ross, 47, and former heroin addict Brand, 33, rang Sachs at home to carry out a pre-arranged interview about his time playing the hapless Spanish waiter Manuel in Fawlty Towers.

When 78-year-old Mr Sachs failed to answer, they left a crude message on his answer-phone in which it was claimed Brand had slept with his granddaughter, model Georgina Baillie, 23.

They then rang three more times, leaving increasingly offensive messages, at one point even giggling callously as they joked about how Mr Sachs might consider killing himself.

After recording the messages, Brand’s producer Nic Philps, 25, contacted Sachs to ask his permission for them to be broadcast.

The actor refused but the recordings went out anyway and were heard by two million listeners to Brand’s Radio 2 show, broadcast on October 18.


MPs, broadcasting groups and thousands of licence-fee payers called for the pair to be sacked, with broadcasting regulator Ofcom announcing yesterday it was investigating the stunt.

Both broadcasters apparently repented by sending letters of apology and flowers to Sachs but this morning Ms Baillie asked for a direct apology and for the comedy duo to lose their jobs.


BREAKING NEWS: BRAND QUITS THE BBC


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The public is sick of this heartless comedy

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How Russell Brand is flirting with his old enemy, self-harm
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Jonathan Ross and Russell Brand row:
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Lesley Douglas was one of the most highly regarded figures in broadcasting until one decision - the hiring of Russell Brand - ultimately led to her downfall.

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Jonathan Ross Suspended for 12 Weeks

Jonathan Ross has been suspended from all BBC programmes for a period of twelve weeks, it has been announced.

The BBC said he will not be paid by the BBC during this period: the fees that would have been paid will be deducted from his BBC contract.

Director General Mark Thompson said: "The ultimate editorial responsibility for BBC programmes lies with producers and editorial managers. The consequences of errors of judgement are therefore more serious for managers.

"Nonetheless, Jonathan Ross's contribution to this edition of the Russell Brand show was utterly unacceptable and cannot be allowed to go uncensured or without sanction. A 12-week suspension is an exceptional step, but I believe it is a proportionate response to Jonathan's role in this unhappy affair.

"Jonathan Ross has already made a comprehensive and unreserved personal apology to Andrew Sachs and his grand-daughter. I believe that he fully understands the seriousness of what has happened. I have made very clear to him the central importance of the clause in his contract about not bringing the BBC into disrepute. We agree that nothing like this must ever happen again and that tight discipline will be required for the future."

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Jonathan Ross is a talentless moron who has far more fame than the deserves, the BBC should have sacked him with out question.

As for Russell Brand well lets just hope we never hear from him again.

Phil in Aylesbury



Radio 2 Chief Quits

Lesley Duncan, the controller of BBC Radio 2, has resigned over the prank calls involving presenters Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross.

Douglas said the decision to leave her job was "mine and mine alone".

The broadcasting head tendered her resignation to BBC director general Mark Thompson this morning.

Thompson met with the BBC Trust for several hours on Thursday to discuss how the calls made by Brand and Ross to actor Andrew Sachs came to be aired.

Resignation letter to Mark Thompson, BBC Director General.

Dear Mark

The last week has been a painful one for the BBC and particularly for BBC Radio 2.

It is with enormous regret that I have decided to resign as Controller of BBC Radio 2, BBC 6 Music and of Popular Music. This is my decision alone.

Over the 23 years of my career at the BBC I have enjoyed a deep love and respect for both the audience and the BBC. The events of the last two weeks happened on my watch. I believe it is right that I take responsibility for what has happened.

It is a matter of the greatest possible sadness to me that a programme on my network has been the cause of such a controversy. I would like to take this opportunity to offer my personal apology to Andrew Sachs and his family and to the audience for what has happened.

It has been a huge privilege to have been entrusted with the leadership of the UK's most popular radio station, which is so intensely loved by the audience. I have also had the tremendous pleasure of launching BBC 6 Music and more recently of leading popular music output across the BBC.

I know I leave BBC Radio 2 and 6 Music in the hands of a dedicated and passionate team of incredibly talented presenters and production staff. I am enormously proud of what we have achieved together.
Yours ever

Lesley Douglas

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Top lawyer: The BBC are responsible, NOT Ross and Russ



We thought just about everyone in the whole of England – including our flatmate's pet hedgehog – had aired their views about the whole Russell Brand and Jonathan Ross prank-call thing, but we were wrong. Now a senior media lawyer has come forward to say that it's the BBC that are at fault in this matter, NOT Russ and Ross. Lawyer Mark Stevens says, "All the (relevant) provisions of the Ofcom Code have been breached by this programme. These include sexual content, decency and fairness. The BBC has to ask questions and sign the form to say it (the programme) is compliant. Clearly in this case someone has applied their mind, as we now know that some parts were edited out." Basically, there is a very strict set of guidelines that all radio shows must adhere to, and, as Russell's show was pre-recorded and did not go out live, there was plenty of time for these breaches to be recognised and removed. Although Russ and Ross should've arguably known better than to let the prank go as far as it did, it's ultimately the responsibility of the BBC producers and execs to decide what is broadcast to the public. The official document consists of 14 categories in all, including tests for offensive language, sexual content, disturbing content, antisocial behaviour and sensitive issues. The show's producers had to answer a simple "yes" or "no" to each point. On the final page, the producers would have had to confirm that they had listened to the programme before signing the document. In addition to this, the fact that Russell Brand is well-known for his somewhat controversial style of comedy, this latest incident can't have come as a massive shock. An investigation is currently taking place to determine who really is to blame, and the number of complaints continue to rise, with 30,000 at the last count. We can't help but feel a little sad over Russell's departure. What do you think?
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