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She was so far up Lisa's backside that when she spoke you could hear an echo. As such, there was alot of bitching about Freddie. One example, he'd offered his support to her during her silly idea of a hunger strike, Lisa shot it down and attacked him then Noirin apologises to Lisa and is out in the garden laughing at him calling him dipshit amongst other things. Nice girl that she is.

Great edit for Freddie and Marcus I hope the producers sleep well after passing that edited version of the truth.

I can now reveal who came out worse from tonight's show......

Channel 4. What a mess! Let's hope they don't have that many technical errors when it comes to getting Kris' votes right.

Will the phrase 'going at it like rabbits' be changed now to mean 'people who go from one group to another?'

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She was so far up Lisa's backside that when she spoke you could hear an echo. As such, there was alot of bitching about Freddie. One example, he'd offered his support to her during her silly idea of a hunger strike, Lisa shot it down and attacked him then Noirin apologises to Lisa and is out in the garden laughing at him calling him dipshit amongst other things. Nice girl that she is.[/quote]


Nothing she has said about him surpasses his lying to support Siavash

Don't agree but either way, it's not a competition about who has done the worst thing, just a point to illustrate that she is fundamentally a malicious, unpleasant individual.

In your opinion.

Haud oan as Karly might say - Madeline, have you been speaking about Finchy behind his back? Or was it you Finchy who said something about Madeline? He said she said he said she said.

Hmm, interesting that Noirin didn't actually tell the group it was Siavash...he did it himself when he said 'Karly I never said it was you'

Anyroadup, I@m glad I watched the whole scenario unfold on live feed - otherwise from tonight's show I would have thought Noirin was s**t stirring for the sake of it.

Now that's a darned good point!

I have been out most of the day. Got back home after midnight. Watched Torchwood as I was on here until 4.30am with the live feed anyhow. From what I've seen on here of the highlight stuff, they need to sort their technical issues out instead of trying to kill the show further, and top the bad editing that puts some people in a bad light - in my view this is often unfair on that HM.

The HL shows really suck in that respect.

Funny how they had technical problems and missed out the most important bit where it is shown Freddie and Marcus is sitting in the company of Siavash when he names Karly and Kris.
Me thinks the "technical problems" might have happened when that part was being broadcast to save their favourite Freddie and Marcus form being exposed for the liars they are.

There are two sides to every story with the truth in the middle, Cameron.

Me and finchy just see the Noirin situation in a different light.

Hmm - interesting show. The person who came out worst was Noirin, who came across as a rather silly woman, getting all het up about, well, not very much really. She struck me as vindictive and self-centred, not caring that she chucked Siavash to be savaged by the dominant group who have been picking off housemates like ducks in a shooting gallery. There was no reason for any of that argument.

I have absolutely no doubt that Kris and Karly said exactly what Siavash said they did, and their furious denials make me even more sure. Kris has a history of denying things he said that might get him into trouble - witness earlier on when Kris tried to blame Marcus for the things he (Kris) had said about Sophie. But over and above all that, what benefit would accrue to Siavash to make such a false accusation?

Freddie was terrific - I loved his William Hague moment. He was, of course, bang on right...again! There is no reason to doubt Siavash's honesty and every reason to doubt the honesty of Kris and Karly because they have form as dishonest, gossiping backstabbers.

I was worried that this edit would ruin the chances for Freddie or Marcus of surviving this eviction, but if anything, they came out of it looking better than before. The Kris hatred will remain strong and he'll go tonight, as predicted. Noirin may just garner a few noms from her shenanigans and it'll do her the world of good to face the public vote. She is way too cocksure of herself and her place in the house. I suspected she was a devious little madame, and last night just confirmed it for me.

Siavash never said Karly and kris said it, he said he thought that is what they might say.
As for Freddie defending Siavash honesty, he needs to have a William Hague moment and own up to his own dishonesty.

Had to laugh when Fredddie was wearing his rabbit suit to have a go at Noirin in the bedroom shouting at her "Noirin, Karly does talk about you"
Karly shouting back at him "What have I been saying about her" Freddie "I don't know but I have reason to believe Siavash's honesty over yours"
all said with a straight face even though he knew Saivash had lied.