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Bunny wrote:

Charlie vs Freddie: the exaggerated "wounded innocence" of Freddie as he was exposed for the schemer and plotter he most definitely is! And yet again, we saw Freddie's immense arrogance about surviving evictions and his insufferable patronizing behaviour. Jeez, he's so foul, he's made me support bleedin' CHARLIE! :8o:

You make me laugh Bunny, it must be exhausting for you having to change your mind so much. ::lol::

What everyone is missing is that all of Bea, Freddie and Siavash's nomination talk and the two people target for nomination is orchestrated by Marcus. He is their puppet master - and his revenge on Bea and Freddie for their reaction to his stealing the cigs has started to bear - fruit. Check out last nights overnight live feed and you will see that he has already got Bea and freddie to fall out.

Geena

finchy wrote:

Yes. What happened where is irrelevant, the issue is that he said it and then claimed that he didn't when Marcus was around. It's all there on screen, you'd have to be pretty blinkered to ignore it.

*sigh* in the final analysis, you're just nit-picking, really. :zzz:

Geena

Bunny wrote:

Bea is one poisonous cow. Her doing a job of work on David earlier in the show - good God, the projection, the deflection! And Freddie joins in with relish, of course. And again, later, babbling on as if she has a God-given right to be there and David is just there on sufferance, dissing people who might nom her as "having poor judgement", with Freddie the lapping it up. Really cannot stand this pair.

Ciggiegate: did they try and edit Sophie out of that altogether? She totally pwned Marcus, and it doesn't seem to have been shown!

Charlie vs Freddie: the exaggerated "wounded innocence" of Freddie as he was exposed for the schemer and plotter he most definitely is! And yet again, we saw Freddie's immense arrogance about surviving evictions and his insufferable patronizing behaviour. Jeez, he's so foul, he's made me support bleedin' CHARLIE! :8o:

Marcus vs Bea - yet again, she turns on the waterworks :roll:

And who comforts her? David, to whom she then has the barefaced cheek to say that Freddie has not been slagging him off - no, love YOU have, with Freddie nodding along and chipping in with his own "observations" :8o:

.........not only made me support Charlie in this instance, I'm also agreeing with everything you've just said. I dunno, I must be wearing faulty blinkers or something. ::lol::

Christine · **Joined:** 07 Nov 01, 2:00 **Posts:** 10186

Madeline wrote:

What everyone is missing is that all of Bea, Freddie and Siavash's nomination talk and the two people target for nomination is orchestrated by Marcus. He is their puppet master - and his revenge on Bea and Freddie for their reaction to his stealing the cigs has started to bear - fruit. Check out last nights overnight live feed and you will see that he has already got Bea and freddie to fall out.

It was also Marcus who planted the idea in their heads about Lisa getting her group to nominate certain people as part of a gameplan, when he does exactly the same thing (so either that is why he recognised it in her because he was doing it himself, or otherwise she gave him the idea to do it himself). I can't remember whether he was doing it at the same time as Lisa or if he only started doing it when he realised what she was doing and it gave him the idea.

Christine · **Joined:** 07 Nov 01, 2:00 **Posts:** 10186

I do not like Charlie at all, although personally I thought last night's show would have made him look good to most people.

I have a feeling that he probably will win, but if it looks likely, then I shall be voting for the nearest contender to try to stop it from happening.

To be honest, I really don't want any of them to win, but I suppose at the moment, my vote would go to Sophie.

Madeline

Christine wrote:

Madeline wrote:

What everyone is missing is that all of Bea, Freddie and Siavash's nomination talk and the two people target for nomination is orchestrated by Marcus. He is their puppet master - and his revenge on Bea and Freddie for their reaction to his stealing the cigs has started to bear - fruit. Check out last nights overnight live feed and you will see that he has already got Bea and freddie to fall out.

It was also Marcus who planted the idea in their heads about Lisa getting her group to nominate certain people as part of a gameplan, when he does exactly the same thing (so either that is why he recognised it in her because he was doing it himself, or otherwise she gave him the idea to do it himself). I can't remember whether he was doing it at the same time as Lisa or if he only started doing it when he realised what she was doing and it gave him the idea.

I have no affinity what so ever for Marcus, but I have to give him credit for the way he manipulates the whole house into doing what he wants.
He has no fear of Lisa - too many of the housemates liked her better then him, so to save himself from nomination he set out to recruit as many of them as he could.
Freddie was easy because he was isolated, easy capture.
He got Noirin because because she was a floater and so easy to manipulate. Siavash and Bea made up his voting wall against Lisa’s group.

Remember the way he used to bitch to Niorin about Lisa/Karly,Sophie and Kris?
That was to turn her off them and to make her nomination the way he wanted her too. He then would do his bitching tactic on the opposition in the DR and the we all know how well that worked because the forums ran away with it. They still call Lisa, and now David all sorts of names with no justification.
Bea, Freddie and Siavash are just his bitches in the house, and he would sell any of them down the river to save his own neck.

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