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That chat didn't sort out anything. He was staring adoringly at her when she kissed him, her mind was working 10 to the dozen when she clocked that.

How is Keeley a 'jumped up' whatever and 'f**king poison' anyway? And if so, why'd he end up apologising to her rather than addressing these issues he apparently has with her?
Steve couldn't give a **** about the outside world. Luckily the feeling would appear to be mutual

Mario really should get over the fact that Caiomhe had no choice but to pick someone for S&R. And she gave him a massive compliment by saying she thought he'd be safe. Come on love, suck it up and move on. As they used to sing way back in the innocent days of BB1, "It's only a gameshow, it's only a gameshow".

Andrew is the Glyn of BB11, with the difference being that he's not such a massive nobsac and he seems to have a functioning brain. I see him sticking around until the final week, specially as he seems to have charmed ALL the laydeez. He got game!

WTF was all that business with Steve and Keeley? And can anyone enlighten me as to when they started calling them the Baron and the Baroness? Keeley's been in there five minutes - WAY too early to have a nickname, isn't it? But anyway, why was Steve freezing her out in the beginning of the day, even before Rachel said all that business about how he might be perceived on the outside world (I literally nodded off for a bit when she was talking, so only got the vaguest gist of it)? Is it all just sexual tension?

And while we're on the subject of the newbies, can anyone tell me what the point of Rachel is?

re the Baroness.... all that was Steve saying initialy that he had Keeleys number.. then while all cameras where watching the JJ and Jossie tiff it was neve aired that Steve and Keeley had had a thing about her being the new ruler of the house .. yawn .. and him calling her the Baroness.. it was all very tedious anyway and contrived. But thats when Steve started calling her that, plus there was some bed play and tickling that also hit the editors floor pre now.

I`ve been pondering that very point. Not only is she thick, she dosent seem to understand bounderies where matters have nothing to do with her, she is loud, annoying. screechy and vacant. She isnt entertaining she butts in to interesting convos and destroys them and just adds over excitment and hysteria which is as fake as anything Ive seen on BB. I cannot imagine any HM fancying her or liking her around for too long as we know loud HMs like her and Corin just annoy the others.

You have just said what the whole point of Rachel, and Corin is.

And while we are on it, If Corin and Rachel are loud and annoying at least they are just loud and annoying; they are not being two-faced and hiding their true nature behind a false face.

is it true that Steve is called Baron because of Baron Greenback from the classic kids show Dangermouse

I've just read that on DS and thought I'd check somewhere reliable, but settled on you guys

I feel a bit sorry for Andrew, the girls are flirting with him in a piss taking way, but he's the sort of lad that won't realise that....he's obviously not used to all this female attention poor lad! How funny would it be if he turned round and said "sorry love you're not my type"

^ i agree with that take on the Andrew situation. he's "safe" to flirt with in a pisstake sort of way. that said, he seems ok to me and also agree he will stay in for a long time. i likes.

Mario is such a tool. he seems to think he has some sort of godgiven right to be in the house - he should just let it go. contrast his behaviour with Nathan. couldn't stand the guy but at least he took being up for eviction well. am also bored of how his theories about aliens etc. which he goes on about never get questioned whereas Dave is constantly under fire about his beliefs. and to think Mario was my favourite at the start.

the Steve situation is just...odd. i don't even understand what it's all about. he's coming across as dodgy, which i don't think is quite the whole story. after weeks of doing bugger all on the HS, it's really damaging to him. not that i mind. he's a dull housemate. even this "controversy" is dull.

Andrew is loving the attention Obo - I agree he is an innocent but the messing around in the house will do him te world of good; look how willing enough he was to put himself up for the challenge Mario set him with the girls.
He is only 19 and frustrated because he has not scored, yet, I think the girls in house understand that and are being very loving and nice with him.

Yes, their one dimensional characters and the total lack of complexity that mature, fully-fledged humans generally have IS rather dull isn't it?

When "not being two-faced" involves being just gobby thick and/or rude, I'd rather people were two-faced.

Yes - maybe that's the point - she's eviction fodder so the interesting, watchable HMs (Ben, John James, Josie, Caiomhe, even Dave to some extent) remain longer

Trouble with that theory is she's not annoying enough to be universally disliked therefore if she's against a big character in a "vote to boot" eviction she will stay