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Have just seen on Rise that Jon got the hump with Ray - as Ray had sneaked into the girls room to "frighten them"... In my eyes a bit of fun in Jons mental abuse

Ah, the old "enter a dark room and frighten the female occupants" joke. Yes, very overused - I think Jon got the hump because it's such not a cool thing to do anymore. Do people still do it? I imagine pre-pubescant schoolboys on an overnight school trip to an outdoor field centre maybe...

Well Tastyfish - what else is there to do other than try to scare the wits out of someone in order that they may responed and "play"

No matter what age you are its still a game for a laugh...It goes back to when "you" were a baby and people would say BOO to you - it ends with the baby laughing...

Re Jon and this mental abuse thing - have just read that Ray told him to get a F--k--g personality - good on you Ray...

what is Jon's problem?
I hardly call having a laugh with the girls as "mental abuse"
the guy needs to lighten up!

No, I think Jon was actually protecting Ray from embarrassing himself with such a non-funny, non-original prank. Either that or Jon is trying to get Ray's true colours to come out, if you know what I mean. I don't think he's the nicest bloke in the world - I reckon he's got a bit of a fiery temper on him. There is just something about him that i don't like, it gives me the creeps, eughk!

if you wanted to get really petty about it, sleep deprivation is a form of mental abuse and has been used as torture in the past.
By constantly waking the girls up, you are causeing sleep deprivation and there for it goes from prank to mantal abuse.

Good job no one is that petty eh?

Could I sue my children for mental abuse - as they kept me from having a good sleep when they were babies

Im sure there are American that have at least tried Rose....lol

Cor, sod mental abuse, If I was scared awake It would be physical